Sarum Candlemas 01

This celebration took place in the chapel of Merton College, Oxford, February 1997. The Sarum Use of the Roman Rite is the native rite for most of England before being supplanted by the (full) Roman version during the years of persecution. In this clip, you can see the entry procession, and candles being blessed (lots of rapid Latin). You can read more info on all the clips on my blog: http://valleadurni.com

Category:

Education

Tags:

• Latin
• Mass
• Sarum
• Liturgy

[Xenogeek2]

Britain was a Orthodox Christian country up to the Norman invasion, when Roman Catholicism was forced on the people. The Sarum Rite goes back to the introduction of Christianity into Britain during the 3rd century. In its proper form--which contains no Latin--it is the preeminent Western Orthodox Rite.

[Brunothelabrador]

This is complete rubbish, which only a total ignorance of history can excuse!

[thethomasian17]

are they Roman Catholic priests?

[Brunothelabrador]

Yes

[tm37gl]

Would you please list all the organ pieces being played in this occasion? I study Tudor organ music and its use on liturgy.

[Brunothelabrador]

Sorry; I've no idea.

[dacatholicbandorgan]

With the Moto Propio this can be changed. I advise you write your pastor about getting the Tridentine Mass at your Parish as well.

[AbidingDood]

trollololololol

[aznmessenjah]

@Brunothelabrador Well, they could be considered Orthodox in as much as the Great Schism had not happened yet...

[Samurai8989]

LOL!

Jason Bently has officially burst into hysterics! Thanks for the enlightening discussion, schismatic. Now go pick a fight with your fellow "believers" in the Holy Sepulcher. Maybe you all start so many fist fights in the Holy Sepulcher to conceal the sound of your Patriarchs striking matches to light your "holy fire" hoax. Even some Orthodox clergy have said it was totally fraudulent (Russian Orthodox Bishop Porphyrius). Hilarious!

[jasonbently2002]

When St. Gregory introduced the Sarum Rite to England through the efforts of St. Augustine of Canterbury, there WERE NO ORGANS. When the Franks conquered England in 1066, THEY FOUND NO ORGANS. So ORGANS ARE NOT INTENDED FOR THE SARUM RITE (Or the Rite of Trondheim, ITS SISTER RITE). Nor is this depiction nothing more than a REDACTED AND ADAPTED STYLIZED VERSION OF THE SARUM MASS.

[jasonbently2002]

@Samurai8989 So disgusting is some azymite BLASPHEMER OF THE HOLY SPIRIT WITH HIS TRADITION OF CLOWN AND GUITAR MASSES vandalizing Christian worship with A SECULAR INSTRUMENT because some Frankish ERSATZ caesaropapist WAS TO IGNORANT TO REALIZE THAT THE ORGAN GIFTED TO HIM WAS USED AT THE BYZANTINE IMPERIAL COURT AND NOT IN THE CHURCH.Then again, you don't even know where your Mass comes from and what its roots are nor do you understand the Mystagogy of the Eucharist.Ignorant heretical vandals.

[jasonbently2002]

@Samurai8989 I take it you won't repent of your heresy, will you BLASPHEMER? Oh yeah, tell all your apologist friends that texts WILL BE PROVIDED IF THEY AGREE TO REPENT OF THEIR HERESIES AND THE BLASPHEMOUS PAPAL CULT AND JOIN THEMSELVES TO THE TRUE CHURCH ORTHODOXY. Yeah, the Church of the Ecumenical Councils DID NOT HAVE A PAPAL DESPOT ATOP OF IT, but existed in conciliarity, unlike that cult of yours. The Holy Fire DESCENDS TO US AND NOT YOU HERETICS AT THE HOLY SEPULCHRE WHICH WE BUILT.

[Samurai8989]

@jasonbently2002

You're a pretty disgusting person. I wont waste any more time dealing with an irrational, ceasaropapist schismatic. Why don't you go start a fist fight in the Holy Sepulcher with the rest of your comrades.

[jasonbently2002]

@Samurai8989THEN WHY ARE SKIRTING THE ISSUE THAT ORGANUM IS THE PRACTICE OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, IE THE ORTHODOX CHURCH,heretic?But I doubt you have the FULL TEXT AND CANONS IN FRONT OF YOU.Ever heard of the Pedalion?!Most of the texts on the Seven Ecumenical Councils available online ARE REDACTED.So yeah THE SEVENTH ECUMENICAL COUNCIL FORBID MUSICAL ACCOMPANIMENT.Leave your barbaric organs for funeral parlors and droppin acid!If I supply you with the Canon, will you repent and become Orthodox?

[jasonbently2002]

The Tridentine Mass is inferior to even Novus Ordo and is bad liturgical theology

[Samurai8989]

@jasonbently2002

... Once again: where exactly does the 2nd Council of Nicaea forbid either the organ or any form of musical accompaniment? I have the text of the Council right here in front of me and it is wholly silent on this issue. Can you respond to this without insults and provide a simple citation?