10 Reasons Why STV=Fail

Single Transferable Vote...is a joke. It's worse than a disease. Watch the video for 10 reasons why STV=Fail.


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• STV
• Electoral Systems

[aceblack1965]

Happily, STV went down in flames in the 2009 British Columbia referendum, so this specific system is unlikely to come back to the voters here.

Some form of proportional representation is good; but whatever system is proposed to improve on FPTP needs to be easily explainable in the length of time equivalent to the proverbial elevator ride.

[893160007]

6: more candidates per riding there same # of MLA/MPP therefore equal local representation

7: uhh actually parts of eu uk australia and new zealand have to and who is to say the majority is correct

8: actually you are wrong and those aren't even the most important reasons for change equal poportion between seats and votes is

9: often people win ridings with 40% not majority and stv can result in majority and minority as well

10: no your vote doesn't matter if your candidate doesn't win

[893160007]

1: you dont have to you can rank as many as you want includibg 1

2: your first choice goes to that candidate if they are elected it goes to your second (if you put one) etc.

3: unless you are counting its not your problem and you dont need to understand every thing in first past the post 40% is usually enough for a mjority i dont understand that

4. so majority go from denationalization to renationization and back and forth no,long term planning

5. so shouldnt every opinion be heard

cont

[Walabio]

Both STV and Plurality are shit. Although it is fun to watch advocates for terrible voting systems attack other bad voting systems, it does not help us. We should endorse and defend good voting systems:

Approval Voting for single-winner (AV —— AV was already the established acronym for Approval Voting when you Brits decided last year to call IRV Instant Runoff Voting Alternate Vote last year. ¡Thanks!)

Asset-Voting for proportional representation (Lewis Carroll invented Asset-Voting).

[88samiam]

and neither of them have been voted for by a majority but combined they have more of the majority behind them than any governement since WW2. The fact is that what the majority of people want is not offered by one party, so what we need is a system that truely represents the majority view and that means we need a system that is proportional to that view like... STV! Sounds good to me! :)

[88samiam]

Under first past the post the neither the majority or the minority vote is truely recognised. For example 2005 uk elections Labour = 35.3% of vote, Conservative = 32.3% yet Labour was given 356 seats and Conservative only 198... Very fair, then Liberal Democrats had 22.1% (hardly a small minority) but got only 62 seats. For 13 years Labour ruled the uk on the basis of only 40% or less of the vote, before that it was the same with the conservatives, now we have lib-dems and conservatives cont..

[88samiam]

@893160007 Exactly! Glad to see someone can see sense!

[luletras1]

We've got the headbanger vote! thanks!

Rick Dignard, Vice president of NO-STV

[BillTieleman]

Great video - thanks!

Bill Tieleman

President

No STV

[tmass101]

hey this is WoT nice Video