Richard Dawkins, author of The God Delusion, The Greatest Show on Earth, The Selfish Gene and other books talks to Irish Broadcaster and journalist, Karen Coleman about the Creationists who believe the world began less than 10,000 years ago.
@TheAnubisDrake The Maker of the simple function of hydrogen working as ordered inside of us is the Maker of all matter consisting of hydrogen and such. The Maker of all matter is not made of the physical matter that He made and there is not evidence of any other maker of any other working elements for any other life forms.
@JungleJargon Err, it's the same thing. Sediments are eroded in one area and deposited in another. Seriously, have you ever read a book on geology?
Even if the estimates are wrong by millions of years they are still relatively accurate on a scale that spans BILLIONS of years. The timespan of these events is of a magnitude that makes Creationism simply impossible.
You obviously don't understand how these things are dated. You have nothing to back up your vitriol. Educate yourself!
@JungleJargon And still no study supporting your Creationism. It's been a week since I first asked.
Therefore we can reasonably conclude that you are completely incapable of producing a single study subjected to unrestricted peer-review that supports your arguments. Instead of drawing the obvious conclusion, you have chosen to blame a conspiracy and reduce yourself to perjorative statements.
Whenever Creationism is subjected to questioning it falls apart. You are evidence of that.
@JungleJargon I've given an argument that deals with this, you have not responded. You've reduced yourself to simply repeating the same nonsense.
For the last time, you are repeating Palley's Watch analogy. This is a flawed argument, substitute hydrogen for a watch and it is exactly your argument, with the same flaws. You cannot verify a statement without a point of comparison, and your statement is universal.
Oh, and our bodies go wrong constantly, so "as ordered" is wrong too.
@zed1207 You should be able to see by now that they are blind to the evidence of a global flood that is over a mile deep.
JungleJargon 34 minutes ago
@zed1207 You never showed me the great ignious mountain where the sediments are supposed to have come from. Science demands observable evidence.
Billions of years would have washed all of the sediments into the oceans long ago.
I have actual history to back up the dates I have. Science is not science if it disagrees with actual known facts.
JungleJargon 35 minutes ago
@zed1207 It is the "studies" that are in question. They have all failed to prove that objects make or refine what we are.
You have chosen to believe that objects made or refined what you are.
Evolution has failed to show itself so that science can observe it.
That is not my fault.
Your belief is baseless illogical, and irrational.
JungleJargon 35 minutes ago
@zed1207 You cannot disprove that all function working parts and mechanisms require a maker equal to or greater than the function that is ordered.
It is not about hydrogen, it is about the simple ordered function of hydrogen when ordered that requires a Maker.
You cannot show me a mechanism that does not have a maker and you cannot prove that objects made or refined what you are so we have a Maker.
Whatever function you do have is ordered by a preexisting word.
JungleJargon 35 minutes ago
@TheAnubisDrake The Maker of the simple function of hydrogen working as ordered inside of us is the Maker of all matter consisting of hydrogen and such. The Maker of all matter is not made of the physical matter that He made and there is not evidence of any other maker of any other working elements for any other life forms.
JungleJargon 35 minutes ago
@JungleJargon Share this evidence. If it is so widespread it should be all over academic journals, so it'll be easy to find on the internet.
zed1207 3 hours ago
@JungleJargon Err, it's the same thing. Sediments are eroded in one area and deposited in another. Seriously, have you ever read a book on geology?
Even if the estimates are wrong by millions of years they are still relatively accurate on a scale that spans BILLIONS of years. The timespan of these events is of a magnitude that makes Creationism simply impossible.
You obviously don't understand how these things are dated. You have nothing to back up your vitriol. Educate yourself!
zed1207 3 hours ago
@JungleJargon And still no study supporting your Creationism. It's been a week since I first asked.
Therefore we can reasonably conclude that you are completely incapable of producing a single study subjected to unrestricted peer-review that supports your arguments. Instead of drawing the obvious conclusion, you have chosen to blame a conspiracy and reduce yourself to perjorative statements.
Whenever Creationism is subjected to questioning it falls apart. You are evidence of that.
zed1207 3 hours ago
@JungleJargon I've given an argument that deals with this, you have not responded. You've reduced yourself to simply repeating the same nonsense.
For the last time, you are repeating Palley's Watch analogy. This is a flawed argument, substitute hydrogen for a watch and it is exactly your argument, with the same flaws. You cannot verify a statement without a point of comparison, and your statement is universal.
Oh, and our bodies go wrong constantly, so "as ordered" is wrong too.
zed1207 3 hours ago
@JungleJargon OK, so then your god has a maker. Who is gods maker?
TheAnubisDrake 11 hours ago