Dr. Ravi Zacharias Best Selling Author, Radio Host, visiting Professor at Wycliffe Hall of Oxford Founder of RZIM, Ravi Zacharias International Ministries http://www.rzim.org/
wait don't we already come up with different definitions for certain subjects. When we define evil as something we define it by many ways such as the action taken, by the people that represent it, by its effect on others. So our individuality and collective thoughts combine around a similarly objective yet still subjective definition. Without cynicism without reason, what will we become? optimistic sheep?
Ridiculous. Dr. Zacharias conveniently muddles the actual logistical difficulties (impossibilities?) of interpretation with conscious, willful, ego-centric misinterpretation. Has he even read Barthes?
no i didn't miss the point. Zacharias wants to convince us that the Bible makes the best "measuring stick" for morality. I'm pointing out that the fact that the Bible itself needs interpretation, can be interpreted, and has been interpreted in many good/bad ways throughout history shows that the Bible is itself relativistic, or at least invites relativism. Therefore, the Bible is not a good measuring stick because it falls into the same trap of relativism (people can misinterpret).
Perhaps you're missing the point? It's not whether the Bible is as relativist as postmodernism, it's whether people correctly interpret the whole idea of relativism properly in the first place. Do we not interpret all of reality with our minds? Do we not interpret every single sensory impulse that our brain receives? Is not the Bible is interpreted just along with everything else. Whether people understand the concepts in which are being discussed in it or not is another story.
Listen to Zacharias talk about 'absolutes' very carefully starting at 2:10. He says that we were told to not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil because the day we do we would surely die, and also because we would be as God, knowing good and evil. Then he immediately says “WHAT IT REALLY MEANT was that we would redefine good and evil...it shows that the Bible needs to be INTERPRETED so the Bible is itself just as relativist as postmodernism...
Most people who believe in Absolute Truth do not do so at the cost of reason, but rather at the cost of their own feelings, which invariably would betray them anyway. They do not seek to "annihilate" the beliefs of others rather to show them what they know to be true -- just as a lighthouse shows a ship at-sea impending doom if they go forward (can't apply relativism here!). Neither do the same abandon their capabilities of stepping into the shoes of another (even in thought). Indeed, nearly
wait don't we already come up with different definitions for certain subjects. When we define evil as something we define it by many ways such as the action taken, by the people that represent it, by its effect on others. So our individuality and collective thoughts combine around a similarly objective yet still subjective definition. Without cynicism without reason, what will we become? optimistic sheep?
Requiemxtoxinnocence 4 months ago
Professing themselves
drj602 6 months ago
Ridiculous. Dr. Zacharias conveniently muddles the actual logistical difficulties (impossibilities?) of interpretation with conscious, willful, ego-centric misinterpretation. Has he even read Barthes?
Untucky 10 months ago
What do you base ethics/morality on then?
Redington931 in reply to meowmix0901 (Show the comment) 11 months ago
no i didn't miss the point. Zacharias wants to convince us that the Bible makes the best "measuring stick" for morality. I'm pointing out that the fact that the Bible itself needs interpretation, can be interpreted, and has been interpreted in many good/bad ways throughout history shows that the Bible is itself relativistic, or at least invites relativism. Therefore, the Bible is not a good measuring stick because it falls into the same trap of relativism (people can misinterpret).
meowmix0901 in reply to Redington931 (Show the comment) 11 months ago
Perhaps you're missing the point? It's not whether the Bible is as relativist as postmodernism, it's whether people correctly interpret the whole idea of relativism properly in the first place. Do we not interpret all of reality with our minds? Do we not interpret every single sensory impulse that our brain receives? Is not the Bible is interpreted just along with everything else. Whether people understand the concepts in which are being discussed in it or not is another story.
Redington931 in reply to meowmix0901 (Show the comment) 11 months ago
Listen to Zacharias talk about 'absolutes' very carefully starting at 2:10. He says that we were told to not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil because the day we do we would surely die, and also because we would be as God, knowing good and evil. Then he immediately says “WHAT IT REALLY MEANT was that we would redefine good and evil...it shows that the Bible needs to be INTERPRETED so the Bible is itself just as relativist as postmodernism...
meowmix0901 1 year ago
aw people who believe in god are so cute
cursiver 1 year ago
God raises this man on such a time as this for His purpose ....Jesus Christ the WAY
swordseller1 1 year ago
Most people who believe in Absolute Truth do not do so at the cost of reason, but rather at the cost of their own feelings, which invariably would betray them anyway. They do not seek to "annihilate" the beliefs of others rather to show them what they know to be true -- just as a lighthouse shows a ship at-sea impending doom if they go forward (can't apply relativism here!). Neither do the same abandon their capabilities of stepping into the shoes of another (even in thought). Indeed, nearly
cheshirelizzy 1 year ago