Questions: London's policy on climate change should begin in Beijing

http://www.intelligencesquared.com/events/london-climate-change

This debate, in association with Shell and the International Herald Tribune, took place at the Royal Society on 20th October 2011.

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If a windmill is about to blight your cherished view of the green English countryside, you might start to wonder why on earth the Department for Energy and Climate Change thinks it is a good idea to subsidise the monsters at vast cost to the British taxpayer. Why not retune some boilers in Guangdong instead? Or encourage the booming cities of China to power themselves with gas, not coal? There's a whole raft of practical, carbon-saving steps which can be more cheaply achieved in the growing, bustling emerging world. After all, a ton of carbon saved in China is as good in global terms as a ton saved in the UK. So why ever spoil our green and pleasant land?

Hang on, though. Wasn't the "green new deal" all about creating jobs in a new sort of economy? Making Britain a leader in an industry of the future? Not to mention making us just a little less dependent for our energy on geopolitically unstable regions of the world. Make China the focus of all our policy effort, and it will be China that reaps the knock-on benefits. Why would we realistically agree to that?

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[mkpdavies]

When the best you envirofascists can do is attack an old man for not being able to remember names, instead of addressing his points, then you know you're in trouble. You know there are many thousands of scientists who think your new religion is a scam, but instead you choose to play the man. Truly pathetic.

[Shellewell]

UKIP... fail.

[cupboardy]

Oh dear. The UKIP guy at the end is just the same as all the other scientifically illiterate people who like to disagree with facts because they don't like them.