Fourth clip from the new documentary DVD film Metanoia. The film is principally about the paradigm of natural intelligence. Moving beyond the confines of orthodox science and orthodox religion, the natural intelligence paradigm views Nature (and evolution) as a system of self-organising intelligence. The 90 minute DVD can be purchased at:
http://www.psychoactive-media.com
I have received more flak over my clips than a flak magnet with extra flak attractant smothered on it.
psybinetic 4 years ago
Right on, you have a point. I didn't mean to be offensive with my earlier posts. Living out here in the states you get used to people trying to push Jesus through quazzi-evolutionary theories. You might find that other people will react the same way I did when you use the word "intelligence."
listen2this 4 years ago
Neither do AI robots 'know' what they are doing, yet they can behave in a specifically smart way. When you first learned to walk or ride a bicycle, did you 'know' how you achieved it? The 'equations' involved are quite complex. Bio-logic 'knows' and, indeed, learns gradually via evolution - albeit unconsciously. Natural intelligence is, I submit, a worthy way of appraising life and its evolution.
psybinetic 4 years ago
fair enough, but the video states "Is evolution through natural selection a purely dumb and mindless process, or does it indicate intelligence within nature?" First off, this reeks of intelligent design and uses a ambiguous term "natural (intelligence?)" to describe a complex process of "push/pull" factors that doen't know anything about what they are doing.
listen2this 4 years ago
I am not denying evolution or the evolution of complexity etc - rather I am suggesting that such natural information gaining processes embody a kind of intelligence. In other words, intelligence is a learning process not restricted to brains/minds alone.
psybinetic 4 years ago
I have read What is Life? by Margulis and Sagan (and other books by Margulis). Margulis and Sagan repeatedly talk about life's ability to learn - this is natural intelligence.
psybinetic 4 years ago
I just watched the video and came up with a similar responce before I even saw your post - good show sir. I recently read Steven johnson's Emergence and I agree it can tell us alot about how chemical pathways work and ultimatly the evolution of complexity. I'll check out those other title you mentioned.
listen2this 4 years ago
maybe the narrator should learn a thing or two about evolution before he speaks so confidently about it. Here's a start: "Endless Forms Most Beautiful" by Sean B Carroll, and "Early Life" by Lynn Margulis. Just in case anyone is curious.
listen2this 4 years ago
LOL. I just realised what you remind me of by recommending all of those authors and their books. You are the scientific equivalent of a preacher, reaching to the bible and pointing to a passage as proof of something. Seen it all at Hyde Park. Do you stand on a box when replying to youtube?
talkingbookworm 4 years ago
museumoftechno
Having read the 'good stuff', as you describe it, can you sum up what you have learned about life and evolution, from it, in a nutshell? You can thus help us by furnishing a good quote of your own, on how we should view our own bio-logics and physio-logics.
talkingbookworm 4 years ago