Challenge to Atheists

What is your non faith based on? Why do you believe what you do?

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[TenchiJeff]

I'll use the words of Matt Dillahunty, I don't know what it would take, but if your god is what the bible says he is, then HE knows what it would take, and would have the power to do it. The fact that your god has not proven himself shows that he either wants me to go to hell, or doesn't exist. If he wants me to go to hell, then your god is an asshole. There is more evidence suggesting that your god doesn't exist. Following the evidence and facts leads to the conclusion that god doesn't exist.

[ProudPatriotPapa]

@TenchiJeff What evidence is it that suggests he does not exist?

[TenchiJeff]

@ProudPatriotPapa Lets apply some reason to this. 1. The bible says God created the Universe roughly 6,000 years ago, we know that this is wrong. 2. An all powerful being that created everything, could not find some peaceful alternative to "wicked" behaviour, and used a genocidal flood as the answer. If god is as powerful as the bible says, then he would have been able to find another more peaceful solution. 3 Jesus. god sacrifices himself, to himself, to create a loophole in a rule he created.

[TenchiJeff]

@TenchiJeff What I'm really getting down to, is that it makes no sense at all. Things that are real, ARE REAL. My tv, my desk, gravity. These are all things that can be measured and proven to be real. The burden of proof is on those that claim that their is a god. If you say that god is a being that cannot be measured, and exists outside of reality, then that is same as NOT BEING REAL!

[ProudPatriotPapa]

@TenchiJeff A 7 dimensional being is real..we do not as of yet have the technology to interact with such in a way you ( and all of science )would accept.

[ProudPatriotPapa]

@TenchiJeff Misconception 1..the bible does not say exactly how long ago the universe was created.I'll send you a vid to straighten that out.The flood eliminated an entire generation of people so evil even modern atheists would call for there destruction.Why he chose the solution He did we don't know.human beings are not capable of seeing the results of our actions in the short term let alone the entire term of human history.So that is kinda moot point.

[masterE000]

This is actually not that bad a question. Except for the part where you said the god of the bible. For me to believe in the god of the bible he would have to show up on my doorstep and fly me up to see heaven and hell because there is no other possible series of events in which I could even contemplate the existence of such a stupid self centred jealous A-Hole. If it is indeed the god of the bible who exists I would rather go to hell then spend my after life worshiping him

[ianmc42]

Atheism is not a belief, it's a refusal to believe. In my case because of a total lack of proof, and the reasoning that faith can be blinding if not questioned. I questioned, and concluded that god does not exist. I can't believe in unicorns because they do not exist. This is not lack of belief in unicorns it is fact. Good luck to those who do believe but count of out.

[doombow666]

The evidence is the lack of evidence for god. What would be enough evidence? I'm not sure but things you can instantly remove from the list.

The Bible or any verse in it.

Personal testimony.

Logical fallacys.

Guesswork. (lets be honest nobody cares what you think)

[curemymind]

@valarmanwe :|... I got that long time ago.. I have yet to find the time to listen to Copleston vs Russell.. But i will have some time off soon for this.. I work in an office which im trying to get out of, but i do have some time to check my comments and video comments... I just don't have a lot of time on me to properly listen.. But i will.. thanks for the info.. I always like to listen to different people as listening is one of the hardest things a person can do...

[valarmanwe]

@curemymind I do indeed see that. That is my point. Ie, that the answesr are there for science to discover, and when they are discovered they becomes part of science. And when the next question is answered, it too becomes part of science. That is what I meant when I said that if God were discoverd by science, then God would not be God.

A digression: Did you listen to Copleston vs. Russell ?

[curemymind]

@valarmanwe That should be obvious... don't you think? I did state them at the beginning and its not just one question... Your question would of been more acceptable like so "what questions would that be?" Just give any subject and it produces more questions then it can possibly answer.. Where are we (which i mean me or you or other) are satified to stop asking questions? Do you see how i produce more questions than can be answered?

[valarmanwe]

@curemymind What question is that ?

[curemymind]

@valarmanwe But my questions would still stand no matter what i see..