(HD) Streamlined Duchess Of Hamilton Heads North.

On Monday 18/05/09 The Duchess was moved from Tyseley LW to York NRM, it is seen here about 10:45 passing Water Orton. Doesn't she look wonderful, all credit to the staff at Tyseley. I don't believe the boiler has been done yet, so she'll only be a static for the time being.

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[KitsuneProductions]

@MG06ZT Thats sorted then :D Although personally I wouldn't display both post and pre TOPS numbers...unless this particular loco did happen to have both for a time? Now that, we may never know. I now feel like buying a steam locomotive and upsetting everyone by putting the TOPS number on...I shall dream on. Thank you for solving the dilemma! And happy filming!

[MG06ZT]

@KitsuneProductions We have an answer! It appears your right. The only requirement is for the TOPS number to be displayed in the cab. There does not appear to be any requirement for the number to be displayed on the outside. So, as you say it's down to the owner.  Many, many thanks to the Railway co-ordinator at the NRM for help in this matter.

[KitsuneProductions]

@MG06ZT Hmm. I'd assume it would just be owners choice...but I'd be interested to find out any other answer.

[MG06ZT]

@KitsuneProductions The DXXXX number is pre-TOPS and relates to type or horsepower of the loco. Your right on steam locos, but they do have to display their TOPS number and speed limits on a plate in the cab. Also, 55022, displays 55022/D9000 on the outside but it's TOPS number is 89500 (not displayed outside). It maybe that locos that have been removed and then put back on TOPS don't have to display their numbers, but locos still on TOPS may have to (doesn't explain D7628)?? I'll find out.

[KitsuneProductions]

@MG06ZT Not a problem :) Don't know much about numbering, other than on old Diesels/Electrics, the TOPS number isn't necessarily anything to do with their Dxxx style number... and all steam locomotives TOPS numbers are in the form 98PNN, 98 indicating they're a steam engine, the P being their power classification and the NN being the last two digits of their BR number...there are a couple exceptions.

[MG06ZT]

@KitsuneProductions Thanks for the comment, I'll have to check on numbering. Glad you liked the vid!

[KitsuneProductions]

@MG06ZT I doubt that would be the reason, as steam locomotives don't display their TOPS number. Also D7628 on the NYMR doesn't display it's TOPS number, and other preserved diesels are similar. At a gust I'd sat it's what the owners wanted to do, perhaps wanting to have it in two tone green but display the TOPS number too. Great vid btw.

[MG06ZT]

@idh3854 I must admit I don't know the reason, but I would imagine it's due to the livery. It carries green livery and you would expect it's pre-TOPS number (D1755), but it has a modern TOPS ID and that is carried as well (47773) I would imgaine this has to be displayed. Thanks for the comment.

[idh3854]

I wonder why the clas47 diesel had d1755 at one end & 47773 at the other seems strange to carry both numbers at the same time

[MG06ZT]

@slendersausage I see you haven't uploaded any vids and so have no idea about the problems.