Avatar, Enemy At the Gates, Troy, Willow Soundtrack Similarity

It looks like I'm not going to get any free time to make the next video. Whoever wants it, below is the list:

I am considering making a new video adding in the "Mask of Zorro", "Star Trek II", "King Kong" (1976), "The Boy in the Striped Pyjamas", "Seven Pounds", "The Perfect Storm", "Braveheart","The Land Before Time," "Brainstorm," "Sneakers," and where it all originates from Wagner's "Parsifal, Act II." If I've missed one leave a comment telling me which ones to add.

While watching Avatar, I noticed something very similar between the soundtrack of the film and other movies. Notably, I thought of Troy and Titanic. It turns out James Horner has garnered a reputation for himself for recycling music from his own scores. The main musical motif that caught my ear was this 4-note motif used in Avatar, Enemy At the Gates, Troy, and Willow.

If you listen to soundtracks from movies that Horner has scored, you will hear bits and pieces that have been lifted and recycled all over again. James Horner seems to be the master of this. This is how modern movies are made and very few people notice the similarities.

Be sure to watch all of this clip. The track list is at the end. I forgot to put the name of second track in the video. (The Destruction of Home Tree)

Please ignore the YT ad, it only detects the song from Enemy At the Gates.

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[Leslieperryscott]

Thank goodness you did this! I was watching enemy at the gates this morning and it was driving me crazy that I had heard this repetition of 3 same notes repeated in 4 steps like agbg going up then back down 1. I said who else on this earth could possibly be as crazy as me that this would drive them crazy enough to research it. Ok so you r my new friend. So which score truly did u think of first when you heard ENEMY AT THE GATE was it boy in striped pajamas or perfect storm? Thanks for your c

[ferociousfrankie]

@Leslieperryscott Thanks, film nerds unite!

[theShadowviking]

This is not "how modern movies are made." This is how James Horner makes his scores. Because he's a hack.

[ferociousfrankie]

@theShadowviking Original film scores are a novelty now... Composers rely on the ignorance of the audience to sample everything.

[aaj606]

ladies and gentlemen, this is James Horner's signature

[Jdiggity101]

@fungie55 Another Hans Zimmer recycle is 'Time' from Inception vs. 'Journey To The Line' from The Thin Red Line.

On a side not, apart from the Horn motif, the Avatar score also strongly resembles the them from 'Glory' at times. Especially choral phrases in the first half, then harmonic phrases from 4:10 onwards.

[Nliman]

Probably already mentioned somewhere, but I just saw The Perfect Storm and noticed the same motif as well. 

[Jrwriter11]

@fungie55 SHUT THE FUCK UP DUMBASS

[DerrickJBurton]

@Who5150 i watched it too and made me think of oceans too..same director and everything

[Who5150]

It happens. I saw Haywire yesterday and thought I was watching Ocean's Eleven. Sure enough...

[Marks3DVlog]

@fungie55 technically you're watching Pirates of the Caribbean and are hearing Gladiator and are watching Avatar and hearing Enemy at the Gates :) James Horner is well know for recycling his music, Hans Zimmer has a few motifs that he likes to use but he's nowhere near as bad

[fungie55]

WTF! I'm watching Enemy at the Gate right now, and I spotted this immediately...and it annoys the hell out of me! Every time I hear it in the film, I think of the Giant Home Tree collapsing in Avatar! What's with all the recycled music? I watched Gladiator about a month ago for the first time in years, and I'm hearing Pirates of the Caribbean music in many of the action scenes! What are they paying these guys for?

[Hawkalina]

@ferociousfrankie It's very sad. I thought Danny Elfman was totally awesome until I realised his scores from Alice in Wonderland and Charlie and the Chocolate Factory were IDENTICAL. D: Murray Gold's my favourite composer now. :D And he only does TV.

[tomwholloman]

@tomwholloman *write

[tomwholloman]

if taking the work of another and calling it your own isn't fraudulent, i don't know what is. as far as his personal stamp, i think that would be more compelling if he had created the stamp in the first place, but again, it is borrowed. i think that if this were the only example, or one of just a few, people would be overreacting. however, four instances (at least) are far too many when the man was paid to right an original score.