phase the Incident of the Door and Fatima and Umar ibn al-Khattab and Ali ibn Abi Talib ( r )[5/5]

is the marriage of Umm Kulthoom, Ali ibn Abi Talib's daughter, to Umar ibn al-Khattab. After all, why would Ali marry his daughter off to a man who supposedly killed Fatima in the "Incident of the Door"? Does it make sense that any righteous man would marry off his daughter to the very man who killed that girl's mother? Because of this inconsistency, the modern Shia polemecist has adopted the policy of simply denying that this marriage ever took place. Shia propaganda sites (including Answering-Ansar, the Shia Encyclopedia, and Shia Chat) have toted this line, claiming that the marriage between Umar ibn al-Khattab and Umm Kulthoom bint Ali is simply a lie, a concoction of "Nasibi propaganda." And yet, in two articles have we refuted this idea: Ali Gave His Daughter to Umar and A Comprehensive Rebuttal of Answering Ansar's Article on Umm Kulthoom's Nikah. In both of those articles, we showed how this "modern" view of Shia propagandists conflicts with the Shia Hadith literature, the classical Shia texts, and the Shia scholarship throughout the ages.Ali married his daughter to Umar because Ali thought of Umar as a God-fearing and honorable man. Not only did Ali marry his daughter to Umar, but he named his son after Umar and also after Abu Bakr and Uthman. Indeed, the marriage proves that Ali approved of the Shaikhain (Abu Bakr and Umar) and refutes the imaginary tales of the Shia. We implore upon our Shia brothers to cleanse their minds of the programming and brain-washing of their Ayatollahs. No rational and fair-minded person could, in the modern day and age, accept such non-sensical fairy-tales.Let us look at the naming scheme chosen by Ali for his sons:

1. Muhammad ibn al-Hanafia
2. Muhammad al-Asghar
3. Muhammad il-Awsat

4. Abbas "abul-fazil"
5. Abbas al-Asghar

6. Jafar al-Akbar
7. Jafar al-Assghar

8. Abdullah il-Asghar
9. Abdullah il-Akbar
10. Abdullah "Abi Ali"

11. Uthman al-Asghar
12. Uthman al-Akbar

13. Umar al-Akbar
14. Umar al-Asghar.

15. Abu Bakr ibn Ali

16. Al-Hasan
17. Al-Hussain
18. Awn

Is it all coincidence that Ali named the majority of his sons with duplicate names, with names of family and companions? Fourteen of the eighteen sons are named in either duplicate or triplicate. This was not random! It would be an astronomical coincidence. If Ali's naming scheme was random, why can we not find other common names of Arabia? Like Obaid, Zuhayr, Zubayr, Sufyan, Bilal, Amr, Yasir, Miqdad, Abu Dhar, Faris, Abdul-Rahman, Abdul, and any other of the hundreds of names...

Ali named three of his sons after the Prophet Muhammad. Muhammad is a common name, and is in fact, the most common name amongst the Muslims. Would it be justified then for someone to claim that perhaps it was another Muhammad after whom Ali was naming his sons after? It is altogether too obvious that Ali named his sons after the Prophet and nobody else.

Looking at the names of Ali's sons, we find that all of the names are those of Hashimites or prominent Sahabah (Companions). For example, there is the name Abbas which was the name of the Prophet's uncle, and then there is Jafar the name of Ali's brother, and the name Abdullah which is the name of the Prophet's son. And then we have the name Abu Bakr, two Umars, and two Uthmans. This is surely not a random naming pattern, but rather it is very deliberate indeed.

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[ZulfiSaifEdDinFsblh]

@nn909 um kultum was already a wife and married herself by her own.

Nothing to do with Ali(as).

bukhari : hadith 5.546

...`Ali had not given the oath of allegiance during those months. `Ali sent someone to Abu Bakr saying, "Come to us, but let nobody come with you," as he disliked that `Umar should come, `Umar said (to Abu Bakr), "No, by Allah, you shall not enter upon them alone " Abu Bakr said, "What do you think they will do to me? By Allah, I will go to them' So Abu Bakr entered upon them...

[nn909]

@ZulfiSaifEdDinFsblh but the thing is, even if she didnt, and Umar did marry Ali's stepdaughter, that still shows that Ali loved Umar.

end-end.

[ZulfiSaifEdDinFsblh]

@nn909 part 3

Thus, Umm Kulthom, whom Umar had got married to, was Imam Ali’s stepdaughter.

Anyhow, I think, with no any doubt, that Fatima az-Zahra’ (a.s.) had had no daughter called Umm Kulthum."

end

[ZulfiSaifEdDinFsblh]

@nn909 part 2

We have refuted this news by clear proofs and said that Fatima (a.s.) had no daughter except Lady Zaynab (a.s.). Some other researches have confirmed this fact as well. I found in some sources that Asma’ bint Umays had born from her husband Abu Bakr a son, who was Muhammad, the immortal martyr, and a daughter called Umm Kulthum who grew up in the house of Imam Ali (a.s.) after he had married her mother Asma’.

see part 3

[ZulfiSaifEdDinFsblh]

@nn909 From the Life of Fathima by 3allame Baqir Sharif al Qurashi from Najaf Iraq

page 147

Umm Kulthum

Some genealogists say that Umm Kulthum was daughter of Fatima az-Zahra’ (a.s.), and that Umar bin al-Khattab had got married to her, and she bore him two children; one was Oun and the other Mu’een who both were with their mother in Kufa but they all died when a wall fell over them.

see part 2

[nn909]

@ZulfiSaifEdDinFsblh Umm kulthum was the name of Ali's daughter, also Muhammad named a daughter that and so did Abu Bakr. Umar married Umm kulthum bint Ali

[ZulfiSaifEdDinFsblh]

Um kulthum is not the daughter of Ali(as)

exept Zainab(as) Ali(as) & Fathima(as) haven't got any daughters

Um Kulthum is the daughter of abu bakr and Asma bint Umays

Um kulthum was Ali(as) step daughter since Asma bint Umays became the wife of Ali(as)

in fact umar married the daughter of his fellow abu bakr