The Limitations of Utilitarian Theory
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You're the one who used the term "happy slave"...I was reacting to your logical contradiction-that was my entire point.
STEVE12741 7 months ago
@STEVE12741 U need to think it through... Utilitarianism advocates maximizing total wellbeing, pleasure, ect.. I do not believe that a policy of enslavement would ever, ever, ever, lead to maximum utility. I just think that's a logical contradiction.. That's like asking whether you'd rather know the truth and be unhappy or be happy and live in a lie.. It's a bad question because in reality the two usually always coincide..
SHIBBYiPANDA 7 months ago
@SHIBBYiPANDA -So if a policy of enslavement makes most of the people happy and satisfies their utility, that's fine with you? What if you are one of the enslaved? Anyway, you need to think through the logic of utilitarianism. Obviously, there are some benefits to its use, but as an abstract rule, law or philosophy, its problematic.
STEVE12741 7 months ago
@STEVE12741 Well I don't remember that I originally said.. But I support Utilitarianism all the way lol..
SHIBBYiPANDA 7 months ago
@SHIBBYiPANDA Easy for you to say, you're not the "happy slave"...if there is such a thing. At best your notion is the sentiment of justification. Additionally its a false choice.
STEVE12741 7 months ago
I love this.
8964373 8 months ago
- wouldn't utilitarianism still advocate helping the people digging for trash?
- if you could be a happy slave (which would probably be someone who has a great deal of freedom or something which compensates for its lost) over a miserable free man, wouldn't you choose happy slave?
SHIBBYiPANDA 10 months ago
Yeah, utilitarianism can't make the justice universally unless all people can able to learn being selfishless, these won't be happen easily without that way.
Also, ACT utilitarianism or rule utilitarianism already two different approach to be maximize the happiness and minimize suffering, but without certain degree of suffering, how can a person grow and being mature? I just want to know how.
melbourneopera 10 months ago
Interesting spin on utilitarianism...
CuteChadz 1 year ago
I think you're addressing a crude form of utilitarianism that no-one still follows. The most famous utilitarian alive is Peter Singer (arguably) and he is one of the most prominent writers and activists about charitable giving.
Besides, I think your first assertion is false even in a pure utilitarian view. Surely a utilitarian would advocate giving up wealth for the good of many people.
tommyk77 1 year ago