Objectivism, not Ayn Rand's philosophy

My struggles with objectivism.

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[MyITRcom]

Guys come on, how do you expect to discuss this when you are willing to break all the rules of the 20 twenty or so logical fallicies.

Like because Newton Smoked therefore the law of gravity must be wrong etc! If you are not willing to look at your flawed statements, how do you expect to ever understand anything?

[aaron0883]

I just ask for 1, not 20. When people claim that I am using dishonest or immoral tactics I ask that they provide an example. Otherwise it makes me think that they are using very dishonest tactics.  Please, back up your claims.

[MyITRcom]

Dude... That was agonizing and really had very little to with the philosophy of Ayn Rand. For someone who claims to have read her material, you certianly have not fully groked it.

[aaron0883]

This comment lacked any content. I made a thesis and supported it ... I made many ideas and assertions. If you can not pick one out and criticize it than don't make general dumb remarks that are likely aimed just to attack someone who disagrees with you.

[MyITRcom]

Yes, but none of them applied to what she brings to the table, your comments only fully revealed your lack of understanding. This is not an attack, just a fact. You engage in many logical fallicies and non-sequitors.

[aaron0883]

Give me an example. I am well versed in all of the works of Ayn Rand, and I believe I have a very good understanding of it. Please help me cure my ignorance if I am wrong, and point out my logical fallacies and non-sequiturs.

[TOMsReason]

Who came up with Objectivist Philosophy in the first place ? Ayn Rand did. That's why it is deserved to call Objectivism 'the philosophy of Ayn Rand'. If you have a set of different ideas, why don't you give that set of new ideas a NEW NAME to clearly distinguish it from her ideas (e.g. just take your last name and add 'ism' to it ) ? Otherwise, we talk about 'Objectivism' and noone knows what set of ideas are actually referred to by this label. Lack of distinction will result in confusion.

[cad40324]

Objectivism is Ayn Rand's philosophy. She was the first to create a system of rational morality, which had never been done before. Objectivism is not a continuation of any pre-existing philosophy. Also, you must understand that Objectivism supports intellectual copyright. Objectivism came from Ayn Rand's rational mind, so it is her intellectual copyright. As for the libertarian issue, I feel the same as you. I don't fully understand where the grudge comes from.

[AEVautomatic]

@aaron0883 Ayn rand has little to do with objectivism.

[rebelq1]

BTW, doesn't libertarianism mean minarchist and anarcho-capitalist?

You said 'libertarian' with the meaning of minarchist.

[rebelq1]

Here's my morality: Do whatever you want as long as you don't harm others, physically or psychologically. Don't cause any unnecessary and unjust harm. And if you can, do help others who are in need.

[rebelq1]

Does Hedonism/Epicureanism/Objectiv­ism advocate concern with one's own pleasure/well being only or that of others too?

[MrSteveSpears]

...In Virtue Of Selfishness she states that he foundation of ethics is the happiness and survival of the individual. This premise is incomplete, because individuals almost never survive as individuals. Homo sapiens have always survived in groups. Even in modern cities there is undeniable evidence of our interconnectedness. We can argue about where to draw the line between the individual and society, but individualism vs. collectivism is a false dichotomy. They are never mutually exclusive.

[MrSteveSpears]

I appreciate your honesty. Too many would be, thinkers are obsessive about wedding their egos to an ideology, as if the survival of their identity depended upon rabid loyalty to their philosophical "team". I also admire Rand's intellect, although I wish she had been more knowledgeable of other disciplines, such as cognitive psychology, cultural anthropology, or sociology. I disagree with her philosophy because of the premise of her ethics which I will explain in a subsequent post.....

[zieben64]

she does admit she has no right saying its unethical.

[zieben64]

Great video. I believe Rand truely believed anyone who followed Aristotelian logic could have come up with objectivism. I think Rand would agree that it is not "her" philosophy, because if she did this would be an elitist thing to say which is totally contradictory of her philosophy. Nothing she says is elitist, even the whole student of Objectivism. She probably saw many people cherry pick parts of her philosophy. As for sexuality, I have no idea why she would think that is, even though

[GnomesAmok]

You have misunderstood objectivism and been led to false conclusions, congratulations, chump

[Mal1234567]

You are including only one incident out of Rand's entire lifetime of voting. So she believed in voting Republican - at one time. But she refused to vote for Reagan. So, as far as your disappointment is concerned, factor in a person's entire record and not just up to a certain point in time.