Darwin The Pope & Papal Infallibility

Papal Infallibility is the little understood dogma of the Roman Catholic Church. Defined by Pope Pius IX at the first Vatican Council in 1870 it can now never be changed.

References

The Roman Catholic Catechism.

The New Advent Catholic Encyclopedia
'that infallibility means more than exemption from actual error; it means exemption from the possibility of error;'

Papal Infallibility Vatican pages Wikipedia

'An infallible teaching by a pope or ecumenical council can contradict previous Church teachings, as long as they were not themselves taught infallibly. In this case, the previous fallible teachings are immediately made void. Of course, an infallible teaching cannot contradict a previous infallible teaching, including the infallible teachings of the Holy Bible or Holy Tradition. Also, due to the sensus fidelium, an infallible teaching cannot be subsequently contradicted by the Catholic Church, even if that subsequent teaching is in itself fallible.'



..Faith demands the submission of the intellect in the face of the Mystery that transcends it

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translated from the Italian
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Bishop Strossmayers Speech Vat 1 http://www.mtc.org/bishop_s.html

"My venerable brethren, you cry out; but would it not be more dignified to weigh my reasons and my proofs in the balance of the sanctuary? Believe me, history cannot be made over again; it is there, and will remain to all eternity, to protest energetically against the dogma of papal infallibility. You may proclaim it unanimously; but one vote will be wanting, and that is mine!

http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/p1s2c1p7.htm RC Catechism 2

Revelation gives us the certainty of faith that the whole of human history is marked by the original fault freely committed by our first parents.265


The consequences of Adam's sin for humanity
402 All men are implicated in Adam's sin, as St. Paul affirms: "By one man's disobedience many (that is, all men) were made sinners": "sin came into the world through one man and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all men sinned."289 The Apostle contrasts the universality of sin and death with the universality of salvation in Christ. "Then as one man's trespass led to condemnation for all men, so one man's act of righteousness leads to acquittal and life for all men."290
403 Following St. Paul, the Church has always taught that the overwhelming misery which oppresses men and their inclination towards evil and death cannot be understood apart from their connection with Adam's sin and the fact that he has transmitted to us a sin with which we are all born afflicted, a sin which is the "death of the soul".291 Because of this certainty of faith, the Church baptizes for the remission of sins even tiny infants who have not committed personal sin.292



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[guwest2]

@equitemcroce 'Mary in space' is an allegory and not meant to be literally true.

[BrendanMurrayJubana]

Nice one. I suggest to help encourage your view you should check answers in genesis.

[equitemcroce]

@Euphobia2 Mary went to heaven not space...I don't know what your trying to make out of this naive materialistic interpretation of something that clearly claims to go beyond this world/universe. As for Yuletide...you're confusing the rites and methods of worship that the Church used to transmit its message with the message itself. The Church's liturgical language is Latin...that's for historical reasons doing with Rome....but it didn't have to be like that. I hope you can see the difference.

[Euphobia2]

@equitemcroce Oh I am an angel! An angel for enlightenment and commonsense. But thank you. I appreciate it. II is said and not my me that I have the best voice on YouTube but then I couldn't possibly comment.

[Euphobia2]

@equitemcroce Easter, Yuletide etc. I rest my case

[Euphobia2]

@equitemcroce She is! Her body has to get to heaven. As a human If she 'bodily' ascended under the laws of physics as the Pope defined Mary would still be traveling. I can't help it! It is non sense isn't it! It is all in the interpretation. Like Humpty Dumpity words mean what you want them to mean. But Mary bodily went up. Did she disintegrate when she past the moon? The Pope never took space travel into account. He would be more careful today.

[equitemcroce]

@Euphobia2 Anyway look, I wanted to address a few more issues you came up with but I’m getting tired of typing and I don’t have much more time to comment. But I did want to say one last thing: the reason why I asked if that was your voice was because I found it ironic that someone with such an “angelic” voice would not believe in “angels”.

[equitemcroce]

On the Assumption of Mary: Reading your comment and putting it in the context of the clip it would seem that you actually believe that we Catholics believe Mary is somehow in space right now. You do know that the Assumption of Mary is into HEAVEN not space. Do you? So i am afraid you are incorrect again: if a Catholic does not believe that Mary Assumpted into SPACE (read carefully now) and is somewhere in the Cosmos, then that Catholic would NOT be excommunicated.

[equitemcroce]

Concerning Jesus, you claim that his existence would not hold up in a court of law? It’s funny, because we have more documents and evidence to believe that Christ existed than that Constantine existed and yet you take the existence of Constantine for granted. Don’t get me wrong, I believe Constantine existed, I’m just trying to point out the incoherence in your line of thought.

[equitemcroce]

“Usually religions change subtly with the times if they are to survive”

If by religion you mean the truths held by these religions (and not just the rites or the methods of devotion), then such religions would be nonsense. Seriously, what kind of a pathetic excuse of a religion would claim to change the truth because it is worried for “survival”. I hold my religion to a much higher standard and am not afraid (and no it is not painful) of the Truth.