M247 Sgt York Division Air Defense (DIVAD) System
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@gajustempus Maybe you're right. However, the Russians built systems that have missiles and guns only as well. The Tor M1, the 9K33 Osa and others. But for a smaller country that can't afford to build large numbers of such systems, I guess it's better to have guns and missiles installed on separate platforms. A Gepard version also equipped with missiles besides its guns, would be cool though.
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@StiviGun1 there's alot good stuff from russia - I personally LOVE the freight planes - heavy cargo and able to start and land even on sand and soil. Unmatched advantage
The Tunguska looks a bit like our Gepard. A variant is also fitted with a Dual Stinger missile launcher. Yet I think the more you put onto a single mobile platform, the harder the logistics get, the more the enemy destroys and the more can break down...
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@gajustempus Yeah, thank for the vid. Very cool :) The Roland seems like a very good system. And unlike the Tunguska, it also has an automatic reloading system. Very cool. However, if you compare it with the Tunguska M, the Tunguska M seems to be better. I never understood how the Russians could build so good weapon systems and at a low cost.
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@gajustempus The Tunguska M is a system that uses both guns and missiles in one platform. And it's a very good weapon system.
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watch?v=5ZdyZPVwvho
here you go :)
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@StiviGun1 why? That's what we have our Roland for :)
C-RAM is for close-range defense, Roland for middle to wide range.
If you use specialized weapon platforms, you get experts on every level - whilst if you take an "universal" platform, you receive a vehicle like the "Bradley"....not too bad in every role, but also not good at any either :P
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@gajustempus Well, it will be a very good short range air-defense system. But it would be even better if they equipped with with missiles as well.
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@StiviGun1 Current plans are to put the turrent onto either a smaller variant of the Leo2 chassis or the Puma - the last one is more likely from the reports I heard. K.O.-criteria is the ability to airlift via A400M
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@gajustempus I did watch the entire movie. The Gepard's turret doesn't rotate faster than the York's. Watch the video I sent you.
Regarding the C-RAM, what land mobile platforms are they putting it on?
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@StiviGun1 whilst the gun positions APPEAR to be a flaw, they're quite nicely positioned in practical use. Gepard is proven on several battlefields :)
And looks a bit later in the video - the turret is able of doing a 180° in less than two seconds.
However the entire thing is - though modernized and optimized all the time - around 40 years old. That's why the new guns are introduced. And: Whilst these are fixed, there're mobile variants already - like on frigates built today.
This is the weapon that confused a fart fan in a portable toilet for a target-and blew the shit out of it .
metalrod23 3 years ago 9
The Sgt. York did a fine job of hitting ground targets! Well as long as you could run the target over, the M48 chassis used on the system was great, the turret that Ford Aerospace build on the other hand was very expensive scrap metal. It also made an excellent paper weight at 62 tons. We never had a paper get away with that sucker parked on it! As an additional benefit, they stunk to high heaven as well.
Frankfurter99 3 years ago 5