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Uploaded on Dec 29, 2011

What is systemic gendered violence? How does society view it, and what evidence is there for its existence? Where do men fit into this? How does "women and children first" factor into how we view this social problem?

http://www.csulb.edu/~mfiebert/assaul...

http://www.mediaradar.org/docs/Dutton...

http://lab.drdondutton.com/wp-content...

http://pubpages.unh.edu/~mas2/ID45-PR...

http://www.kidscape.org.uk/assets/dow...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oua2y1...

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  • Walabinx

    Thought I'd share an anecdote. Couple months back my brother was attacked by his ex. She bit him to the point of tearing skin (he still has the scar), and although he was tempted to retaliate physically, he didn't. This happened downtown, in public, so a cop (I feel like its worth noting that the cop was woman) eventually came on the scene.. My brother, who was noticeably worked up (though he didn't hit her back), got arrested and had to spend the night in prison. His ex got off with nothing.

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  • urwutudo

    A case of lighting a fire in someone else's camp so no one will notice the fire in your own or, the pot calling the kettle black. "Strike a woman and you strike all of society, strike a man, and it's business as usual." = systemic gendered violence toward men, not women. That really does says it all right there...

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  • MrBrachiatingApe

    Similar. My father's second wife is abusive, physically and emotionally. I have been slapped a couple times (nearly got a spiked ring in the eyeball once,) kicked in the nuts a few times, pushed, grabbed, kicked in the shins, had shit thrown at me and been threatened w/ a frying pan by women for no reason, or no more than disagreeing/failing to be deferential. All when I was younger. Only time I fought back was in grade school, and man did I catch shit. Think I'd fight back now; fuck it.

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  • kebertzela91

    You're fantastic.

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  • kalamimau

    2) Not necessarily.Men were more geared towards physical labour and hunting, not aggression itself.

    1) You shouldnt get much hate, dont worry.

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  • Pottan23

    This is funny to watch but also scary because When my brother and his GF broke up it wasn't pretty, lots of shouting and insults were traded until she had enough and tried to punch him. What does my brother do? Dodge the punch, grabs her and throws her across the floor, any guess what the first thing she grabs when she's up again? A knife "I'm going to fucking kill you". Luckily I was in that apartment as well so she dropped it and stormed out. We didn't even report it.

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  • jersauce1337

    i've only been exposed to 2 instances of domestic violence. One when my mother put a cigarette out on my father's glasses when he came for visitation rights and my mother commanded us to remain inside denying him his visitation, he was the one arrested. The other my roommate's gf punched him in the ear for not paying attention to him, he yelled at her she got scared pulled a kitchen knife on him and cut his hand up so bad he left our kitchen looking like a dexter crime scene, no arrest for her.

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  • MrBrachiatingApe

    3. SGV against women (traditionalist cultures outside the West.) This would include Chinese abortion of female fetuses (perhaps,depending on one's view of abortion,) some aspects of Islamic culture (stoning to death for adulteresses, 4 male witnesses to establish rape,) Vietnam (I live here, and women get beaten by men more than the opposite, AFAIK) and so on. Limited in geography and/or history.

    In fairness, we should examine other forms, or did GWW do so and I somehow missed it in her video?

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  • MrBrachiatingApe

    Late comment, and maybe others have made it: we should look into the idea that there are different forms of systemic gendered violence (and possibly more, depending on how loosely we define 'violence.')

    1. The type affecting men, as you so ably describe. Common to all places in all of history.

    2. Current legal violence against men (courts, sentencing differences, etc.) Affecting men in the western world.

    3--continued in next post.

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  • Alex pow

    I expect to get a lot of hate for this, but isn't that first study, the one done by Martin S Fieber, flawed? I didn't look into the rest but the major flaw people point out in the first study is that it uses the CTS. Also from an evolutionary perspective wouldn't it make sense for men to be more aggressive for the same reasons they have physically stronger upper bodies?

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  • Woodrow Willow

    I'm older (60) and so tend to approach the Man-Woman Thang from an archetypical pov (think Camille Paglia). As such, I think that one main - perhaps THE major - development by which Women can be justifiably held to have given up any claim to special treatment was the granting of abortion on demand: For better or worse, they are no longer in any way required to be the vessels of new life, and as such have no longer any claim whatsoever to treatment with kid gloves.

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