Tar Sands & Water (Part 1 of 5)

Interviews with mostly members of the Fort MacKay and Fort Chipewyan communities, discussing cultural and environmental impacts of living downstream of the tar sands (allegedly causing cancers in these villages) plants

Category:

News & Politics

Tags:

• mcmurray
• environment
• fort
• chipewyan
• mackay
• tar
• sands
• oil
• water

[waterforpeople]

Solar power doesn't kill. Those who think sucking the Earth dry and toxifying our water and air are going to bring them more money as if the environment has no value are morally irresponsible IDIOTS. You have nothing without a sustainable planet. IDIOTS.

[jason74ftchip]

You sound like a "Hitler 'I mean harper , kind of guy .... let me guess ,, you work there and your making big money ? right ?

but did you know that money(oil money) comes at a cost of lives?

[stud090]

@kidzed84 again i do not oppose your humanist values, i chose the author because of a unique name and nothing else. I'm really not sure how else to convey the point of the world needs oil "effevtively" but that is the fact. Albeit your prolly right my oppinion is in fact biased and your points are valid my only rebutle is, and always was the world needs oil.make no mistake, the side effects u mentioned may be credible. the FACT remains the world needs oil! for now at least.

[kidzed84]

@stud090

I noticed you did not mention any of the other (multitude) of authors and genres I listed; instead you choose the one (sci fi) you believed you could use to insult me. YOU demonstrate your own total lack of understanding of both the environment and humanist issues. You may SAY you do not oppose my humanist values, yet you continue to challenge my person and the issue at hand (which is beyond verifiable). This is the reason i used the phrase "unfettered by facts."

[kidzed84]

@stud090

You can justify your name-calling and yarn-spinning (a colloquialism not from a thesaurus;)) however you want, it does not characterise yourself or your so-called "points" well or effectively. The world may NEED oil; however the tar sands extraction provides a NET ENERGY LOSS. So while you plan where next to drill, I will be building a cleaner, fairer more just society.

[kidzed84]

@stud090

I also have post grad degrees albeit in the humanities and social sciences. This does not make me an expert in

any one subject. The fact that you work in the oil and gas industry makes you biased. This video is about how the tar sands extraction is destroying indigenous communities (polluting hunting/fishing areas, birth defects, continuation of colonial policies...) these are FACTS. it is also destroying the CDN wilderness, removing a boreal forest the size of the UK.

[stud090]

@kidzed84 i dont recall personally attacking u and if i did i do apologize, for i dont know you or anything about you. My oppinions are mine and i have a right to them as you do, but to call them ignorant is ridiculous i work in the oil and gas industry and have for over a decade have 10 yrs of schooling in this after i graduated high school. No need for pitty here my oppinions are mine and are generated from my own POV. Not sum news corp. shoving propaganda down my throat.

[stud090]

@kidzed84 i think ure the one who may be ignorant of the facts.  heres some more:I work for many oil companies and have risided in fort mac and throughout Alberta i do know a little about this. While you sit there with a thesaurus i am at work devoloping the next possible prospect areas to explore drilling. P.S. i have never seen fox news in my life

[stud090]

@kidzed84 listen...ignorant of the facts? Im not not trying to be in a youtube war with u but i'll give u 1 fact that trumps anything:The world needs oil simply put. If there were alternative ways to fuel the world im sure people would have done them by now! Until that day THE WORLD NEEDS OIL. im not opposed to your humanist oppinion and what you are saying, simply debating you. Heres some more facts:my oppinions are formed from 2 masters degrees in geophysics and earth sciences

[kidzed84]

@stud090

everyone? i am not fighting anyone. I am simply espousing a humanist opinion to which, obviously, you are very opposed. You may mock me, but all it exposes is your simplistic contextualisation of the human condition to very uni-dimensional talking points. If you had an argument or opinion that related some aspect of reality- i.e. facts, i expect we should have seen it several posts ago.

[kidzed84]

@stud090

It says a lot about YOUR imagination: the ability to think critically and radically different, that you are STILL unable to form a concise argument outside of personal attacks...It demonstrates how clearly ignorant you are of facts and totally devoid of empathetic response for people in peril. I pity you that your opinions have been so mal-formed by neo-con blather and fox news propaganda.