Trying Jackie's Patience

A professional martial artist tries Jackie Chan's patience in the filming of a fight scene in the film Who Am I?.

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[Kullen64]

LOL. When in doubt, send Brad Allen.

[moodyeye2003]

I don't know if anyone here knows but martial arts and stage and screen combat are very different.

I find it very difficult to hold back than to make contact. I do both it take quite along time to develop the skill especially when using props like swords.

I can only imagine how Mr. Smoorenburg must have felt

[dardrex777]

@Malcham7 MK lacked any rhythm. Cage Vs Scorpion and Reptile's fight were both ok... but Robin Shou did better fighting in Tiger Cage 2 with Donnie Yen. The best Pat Johnson can do is... ok... nothing special. There's no creativity to his choreography.

[Malcham7]

@dardrex777 I thought Pat Johnson's Choreography was nice in the first two Karate Kid movies were good. I didn't mind "some" of his choreography in MK1 even though Robin Shou choreographed Cage Vs Scorpion and Liu Vs Reptile which were the only two best fight scenes in the movie. But Pat Johnsons's Choreograpy for TMNT was pretty goofy.

[dardrex777]

@jfearless1 Even I said Jayden was too young. Doesn't mean the movie sucked. In the end the movie got more right than wrong.

Pat J's choreography is not realistic. His actors are slow and stand there waiting for a hit. That's not realistic. Speed is realistic. In real life people swing quickly and fights end in 4 seconds... which would be boring on film. Realism doesn't sell.

TMNT was barely Pat J's control. Golden Harvest from Hong Kong produced the film and all the stuntmen were chinese.

[jfearless1]

@dardrex777 I don't think Pat Johnson's choreography is as bad as you say it is. I found his choreography in the TMNT movies very entertaining. I am familiar with the work of the gentleman you mentioned. It seems you like the fast action style of martial arts over realism. You must have really liked Kung Fu Panda then. I prefer realism in movies not fancy choreography that is totally unrealistic. I will check out Nostalgia's Critics. My main problem was the actors were way too young.

[dardrex777]

@jfearless1 Pat Johnson is a horrible fight choreographer... most of his stuntmen can't throw a punch, his fights are slow, and movements are boring. Watch Yuen Whoo Ping, Tony Jaa, Jackie Chan, Corey Yuen's, Brad Allen, Panna Rittikrai, Larnell Stovall, and Sammo Hung have far better choreography.

Yes the new KK sold well dude and general consensus is pretty positive. Watch Nostalgia's Critic's review of both films. He pointed out some good points the new one has over the old one.

[dardrex777]

@jfearless1 So what if Jackie runs that's the character he plays, generally the vulnerable underdog character like how Stallone plays Rocky. Because vulnerable characters are more interesting and it makes it shocking when he turns the tide of the fight at the end. It's always more interesting to the audience when they think the hero doesn't stand a chance. Rocky, Star Wars, Indiana Jones, Terminator, Karate Kid, all these movies and more follow this philosophy. You don't know about movies dude

[dardrex777]

@jfearless1 Practical movements can't be captured on film. It's not visually interesting to the audience. They want to see cool moves.

VD doesnt have power he's a fake dude. He backed out of a Las Vegas fight last year after a year of preparation because his opponent would have killed him (He was real deal). All his stunt guys stand around waiting to get hit.

Tony Jaa ran away dude... there's a chase scene in OG in the first 20 minutes. Plus Jackie has done almost every trick move there is.

[jfearless1]

@dardrex777 What practicality is a 540 kick. Seriously? Yes it looks cool but when would you do that in a real fight?  The first martial artist I saw do that on film was Tony Jaa in the movie Ong Bak. He is very Chan like but at least he doesn't run away from his opponents. Chan runs around like a chicken with his head cut off.

[jfearless1]

@dardrex777 Having more variety of kicks doesn't mean anything. I have over 20 students who are between the ages of 4 and 14 who can do all of those kicks. VD has power. Jackie is all show. He is an athlete. When I say that VD is a better kicker I mean that his kicks are much stronger and more lethal than Chan's. To be honest I don't even remember Chan doing many trick kicks in his movies. Most of the time I see him running around trying not to get hit.