Flavigny 2008 Part 1

reception of the cassock - traditional mass - SSPX
prise de soutane à Flavigny le 02/02/08 France - cérémonie présidée par Mgr WILLIAMSON - Fraternité Saint Pie X

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[livre333]

Salve FSSPX

[JoanScholastica]

This is a good video. However, I couldn't understand His Excellency's words since it's French! Somebody please translate! Thanks!

[pookerville]

So why does the SSPX use the 1962 Roman Missal of Blessed John XXIII during their liturgies?

[HarmAllShip]

J'ai l'impression que beaucoup s'éprennent de leurs propres discours au lieu d'écouter tout simplement ce que dit Mgr. C'est clair comme de l'eau de roche.

Instead of admiring yourself in your words, just listen to him! You would understand : it's crystal clear. He is crystal clear.

[nuduaspiaggia]

He is the only one in the Roman rite that can consecrate a bishop, and if a bishop is consecrated without his presence, it can only be done with his consent. You seem nothing more than a non-Catholic, ignoring the primacy of Peter instituted by Christ Himself.

[nuduaspiaggia]

The primary rule of orthodoxy is to conform; SSPX goes out of its way to stick out. Furthermore, its hierarchy has wrongly and independently consecrated bishops, an act which, in the Roman rite, can only be performed by the Roman Pontiff.

[nuduaspiaggia]

Williamson has no Apostolic authority.

[nuduaspiaggia]

The liturgy and sacramental formulae to which you refer were formulated at the Council of Trent after the Protestant Reformation, it is not even 600 years old. Before the Tridentine reforms, there were liturgies and sacramental formulae of varying types throughout the Catholic world (Mozarabic, Gallican, Ambrosian, Sarum, Benoventan, Roman, etc.).

[Eskadron22]

That is absurd, your quote from the bible refers to the creation of the H. Church - it does not give the left-wing churchdestroyers carte blanche to massacre the 1800 year old liturgy, the sacraments, to commit blasphemy during the communion, to remove the altar and the relics of the saints. Besides that there were some clear instructions from former popes not to tamper with the liturgy. But the problem goes much deeper than that. Vat2 gave us nothing positive, it was political.

[nuduaspiaggia]

Not true. Remember that the Roman curia has every right to change the liturgy, a right given by Christ. "Whatever you bind on earth, is bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth, is loosed in heaven."

[Eskadron22]

Well you are formally right. Just not practically because several elements in Rome itself have and are breaking away from themselves. FSSPX is more Catholic than the Vatican is.

[nuduaspiaggia]

When you break away from Rome, you cease to be one. SSPX also ceased to be Apostolic; a bishop cannot ordain bishops without the consent of an Apostolic see. SSPX does not have Apostolic authority.