Ivan Demidov vs Ylon Schwartz - WSOP 2008 Main Event Final Table

http://www.fulltiltpoker.com/?key=MDAwMDkyN0IwMDAxRDNDQTIwMzI0MDI0MDAwMDAwMDI- . Ivan Demidov vs Ylon Schwartz - WSOP 2008 Main Event Final Table

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[andrew1519j]

Ylon Schwartz is a very good player.

[JohnQWydell]

He watched it on tv, and complained that he didnt get the Planters 'good instinct moment'.

[Kapser1]

Agreed that suggesting he's check-raising the river is nonsense. It's very unlikely that he has a full house because of the checked flop and raised turn, and the straigh flush is out of the question.

Pretty sure he put him on the ace of hearth, so it's a pretty good fold imo.

[cloudstrife1288]

i'll never understand how this is considered a great play. he literally can only beat a bluff. and norman chad is RETARDED for suggesting that he could check-raise there on a 4-suited paired board with the second nut flush. he has to believe that demidov is bluffing this 1/3 of the time for this to be a profitable call. And considering demidov made a 1/2 pot value bet, the chances that he's bluffing are like 1/10

[RealSoundNow]

One other point .. you can see that Ylon and Ivan were somewhat chummy at the table because of the banter preflop. I also think Ylon and Peter Eastgate were chummy as well. They had months before the final table and some of the players got to know each other. Ylon even said this on his exit interview. Makes a difference on a big hand like this.

[idalgleish87]

Ye that face he makes is the classic "weak = strong" .His expression is to convey the feeling of, " oooo, 4 to a flush,thats interesting", but of course we know hes thinking ,"yasss the nuts how can i get the most value"

[chamakazeee]

Ylon is a good friend of mine.... He told me why he folded this hand. 1 simple reason.  $345,000. Basically the difference between being wrong and right. Another player was very shrtstacked and ylon didnt want put his tournament or his stack at risk in a position to move up in the money on an iffy board. Smart mathmatical move no money odds in a call also said Ivan had been a rock and it was pretty obvious by the faces he made after the turn card came out. REFERENCE 1:26 into the video.

[TheMaxerpants]

Demidov is easily overlooked in this vid. I think he played this hand a lot better than Schwartz did. By raising on the turn, he was able to extract maximum value out of Schwartz. Why else would he raise? He had the nuts. He must've known that Schwartz would fold to any bet on the river, so he had to raise the turn because he knew he would get paid off there.

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[silicon43]

haha schwartz:

"IVANNNN"

[ucla198]

ylon's laydown was a big laydown but far from the greatest. if ylon had nut flush and he folded AND demidov happen to have a straigth flush in that sitution, that would be an AMAZING laydown..on par with folding a full house.

[ucla198]

if he gets reraised on turn ylon most likely has a flush in which case demidov is only 3:1 underdog to hit at best. YLON PUT DEMIDOV ON THE NUT FLUSH OR POSSIBLY EVEN A STRAIGHT FLUSH. THOSE WERE THE ONLY POSSIBLE HANDS DEMIDOV COULD HAVE OTHER THAN A BLUFF