What is the Bible about? (John Piper on Hebrews)

This is a section from a sermon in 1990 by John Piper that I really liked. I edited it to some images and music. With of course the exception of the hubble telescope and space shuttle images, I took the other photographs myself. The background music is a song called "35 minutes" by one of my favorite artists "Moby" (from his amazing album Hotel). Check him out at moby.com or on itunes.
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-Michael

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[mikeisi]

@AtheistToothFairy ..sorry i'm going to bed. (PM) me if you want.  I'd love to chat more. good night

[mikeisi]

@AtheistToothFairy (b)...2 The point is not 'believing in an invisible man in the sky' (consider thats more your definition of God than scripture..) or eternal torture....the point is in believing there is 'meaning' behind existence. To say..."I believe there is a reason to existence that Science does not seem to offer". I just don't understand what that has to do with throwing 'logic' and 'reason' to the wind? How is it irrational to believe theres someone knocking if I hear a knock?

[mikeisi]

@AtheistToothFairy 1. The short answer, long task would be "Go read RC Sproul's book "the holiness of God"...or read Psalm 34. I would simply ask you to consider that if a parent asks their 6 year old to obey them in everything they do...does that really qualify the parent as having an 'ego'? Does his intelligence, and strength over the child mixed with his great love for him define him as being 'egotistic'?....(see b)

[AtheistToothFairy]

@mikeisi:"The emphasis is God's holiness"

1. What does this word HOLY actually mean, other than a reflection of god's inflated EGO?

2. Not believing that an invisible man in the sky actually exists, and being tortured for eternity because some of us are born to think RATIONALLY, is enough justification for YOU to accept that god has to torture some for this great 'sin' against him?

I'll never understand where you guys get your morals from @@

[mikeisi]

@AtheistToothFairy (2)...i think the point the bible emphasis is not so much of "how many sins did one commit"...its WHO you sinned against. The emphasis is God's holiness; kinda like if a boy shoots his brother in the leg, he will be punished to one degree.......if he shoots the president of the united states in the leg....his punishment will be to a greater degree. (please...i hate comparing a president to God....its just an analogy)

[mikeisi]

@AtheistToothFairy I respect your point; I don't believe that people in this life can fully see the depths of the mystery of hell in regards to punishment fitting the crime; the argument usually is; you steal cookies from the candy jar-you sit in the corner, you steal a car-you go to jail, you rape and murder-you go to prison for life, you spit in the faet of the infinite God of this universe...you perish infinity. I'm not saying I understand, but the mystery is not enough to abolish it. (see 2

[AtheistToothFairy]

@mikeisi:"But what if I in my natural state have basically done the equivalent of theft and murder to God...is He wrong in being 'wrathful'?"

I assumes that you believe in the xtian hell dogma.

There are only finite sins/crimes one can commit while we are alive, yet the NT asserts that if one doesn't believe in and accept jesus, that one will pay an INFINITE PRICE of torture [by a wrathful god], for this FINITE sin.

You still don't see your god as wrathful huh?

Stockholm Syndrome...READ IT

[mikeisi]

@AtheistToothFairy I would argue that your confused about the concept of 'wrath'. If the bible taught that I, in my natural state, am a good, decent person that really has no problems and has never hurt anyone, and that God is simply a mindless tyrant of wrath..then yes, you'd have a point in having a problem with worshiping 'that kind of god'. But what if I in my natural state have basically done the equivalent of theft and murder to God...is He wrong in being 'wrathful'?

[AtheistToothFairy]

"Get right with a wrathful god"?

This is the kind of you WORSHIP and you think you have morals?

You're SICK!!

[424Julie]

I'm sorry. This sounds too much like Sun Worship (not a mis-spell). The Bible is about the Kingdom of God. That is what the Messiah preached. The Meek will inherit the EARTH. What a concept. Yes, we need our Melkizedek, which Yeshua (Jesus) is, but the rest of this message is not on the mark, IMHO.