Sun in Murky Water? : Refuting Christian_Potato!

Refuting Christian_Prince and showing a great error in his bible can he answer?

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[Ausaini17]

if God has the ability to kick Satan out of Heaven to Earth, Why wouldn't he have the ability to kick him out he universe? He can do all!Kicking Satan out shows that God can kick Satan out of anywhere he wants but because of his mercy he banished him to Earth( where his children were).

[lnvestigatelslam]

Kick him to where?

Listen let me putt this where

If i tell you i own house with 6 rooms and i kick you from room 1 to room 4 does this mean you are kicked out of the house?

No your still in the house but a different room

same with satan he is kicked out of heaven to earth but not out of Gods Kingdom coz Gods Kingdom is every single sqaure inch of heaven universe moon earth pluto black holes ect ect

its impossible to be outside Gods kingdom coz he OWNS EVERYTHING!!!

[Ausaini17]

Also, I don't hink God can kill anyone, but What about telling someone to kill another? Abraham and Isaac? The 100 year war ( actually lasted 116)? The Crusades? Job? Now? God, may not kill people but he can influence people to kill others. To tell you the truth most of these aren't even God's fault! Most of them were performed by people who were driven by religious hatred and then told themselves they were doing God's work to justify themselves.

[lnvestigatelslam]

God is perfect and doesnt make faults

So its mankinds mistakes in killing

Whats God does is protecting His Servants and Believers by killing those that reject Him and attack the ones who accept Him

Its God who created death and life and its only Him who has the right to take it or give it

But you are rite most humans are driven by hatred and lust for power in killing others and claim its Gods work wich is wrong as God deosnt allow the killing of inocent

[Ausaini17]

God didn't kill Jesus. Jesus was left with the decision of whether or not to do what God has told him. He was told this when he was very young, about 13 yo. If you notice the bible goes from 13 yo to 31 years old, so 18 years are missing. During these 18 years Jesus contemplated whether or not to do it. He chose to. Also,God won't do certain things but he has shown he is capable of doing certain things. kicking some one out of his Kingdom? He did to Satan

[lnvestigatelslam]

Again in his last days he prayed to be saved

Oh father let this cup pass by me and he prayed

So God kicked satan out rite? to where? if God owns the WHOLE THING!!

God is the King Of this unverise! not a musterseed is not under his kingdom

not a ant!

You see satan is never been kicked out of the kingdom he was kicked out of heaven to earth

And earth is also a part of Gods Kingdom

So its impossible to be somwhere wich is not the kingdom of God!

[theproudONE92]

@robinhossain theirs a hadith sorry i cant tell you from exactly where but maybe your familiar with it. Christians have no knowledge and too much action. Jews have knowledge and too little action. Muslims are alanced. it makes sense because you dont see jews making dumb claims like these christians try which obviously have no knowledge. and muslims have it both ways alhamdulillah

[kineticshadow]

1. there is a difference in someone claiming to see something and a metaphor so your comparison to the verses in the bible do not hold water. 2. you stated that the sun rises in the west? since when?

3. you state that the stars are smaller than the sun? uhm stars are suns and the sun is the star of our solar system. there are many much bigger than the sun in the universe so that's retarded too.

btw, you might want to learn the difference between then and than. just saying...

[pakmanjonez]

the fact that people even raise this issue shows their own ignorance and stupidity.

this was 1400 yrs ago, but most people had common sense in regard to how hot the sun was. im sure none of them believed that set somewhere on earth

[robinhossain]

Good job.

Christians are grasping at thin air - but they are effective at the art of deception. The bible is so full of terrorism, infanticide, racism, polytheism... that they are desperate to paint the quran in a similar light.

[SupportExtantDodo]

Eh?

You are not correcting anything, you have not read the thread!

[SupportExtantDodo]

RefutingCP

Here I'll make it easy for you

Google altafsir

Please tell me what I missed out in the quote I gave for 018.086

I searched the entire Tafsîr for all the phrases you used and all it did was say phrase not found

I stand to be corrected!

[RefutingCP]

Your comment is rubbish

Tafsir ibn Kathir says more then what you say its 4 pages of a book and one line of this pages refutes this whole lie of the sun setting in murky water

'... As for the idea of his reaching the place in the sky where the sun sets, this is something impossible, and the tales told by storytellers that he traveled so far to the west that the sun set behind him are not true at all. Most of these stories come from the myths of the People of the Book....

[SupportExtantDodo]

3:31 RUBBISH!!!

Tafsîr Ibn says

(Till, when he reached the setting place of the sun) where the sun sets, (he found it setting in a muddy spring) a blackened, muddy and stinking spring; it is also said that this means: a hot spring, (and found a people thereabout) these people were disbelievers: (We said: O Dhu'l-Qarnayn!) We inspired him (Either punish) either kill them until they accept to believe that there is no deity except Allah (or show them kindness) or you pardon them and let them be.

[jhertmar19]

note: Falling stars, are they stars? nope metiorites

[jhertmar19]

note: "BY THE WAY where the sun sets" meaning west