FULL film - The Historical Case for Paul: A Critique of Muslim Arguments

A documentary affirming the historical reliability of the Apostle Paul in light of Muslim claims.

www.KeithTruth.com
www.Answering-Islam.org

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[texastig]

This is awesome. This blows all of Paul's critics away.

[dekeama15]

@KeithTruth hey Keith i was wondering what did paul do when he went to arabia any ideas

[KeithTruth]

@alpidistra I meant venerating images and icons, not idols. You won't find Polycarp, Ignatius and Clement doing this. Neither will you find the New Testament saying Icons are documents and thus veneration is fine. This is the foolishness of man. The OT Jews may have venerated scrolls, but they didn't claim icons or images were documents or illustrations and venerate them. Again, your system is removed from the Bible and early church.

[KeithTruth]

@alpidistra I believe in a modern form of so-called reformed Christianity? No my beliefs conform perfectly with the London Baptist 1689 confession of faith. This is neither American nor modern. Like I said, scholars have pointed out that there were major strands in the early church of the 5 points of grace and the solas of the reformation. These are what mainly distinguish my beliefs from yours. Again see the works of Gill, Needham, Oden, Fesko for proof of this in the early church.

[alpidistra]

@KeithTruth Point is that you believe your modern form of American so-called reformed Christianity, no matter what name you want to give it, is the only authentic Christianity taught by Jesus Christ and the disciples. Every other denomination is "idol worshipers", heretics and deviants and somehow Christ's teachings remained hidden for 1600 years until it finally showed up in America in modern times. Quite an arrogant claim indeed.

[alpidistra]

@KeithTruth You're showing your ignorance because there is no idol worship in Orthodoxy; that is a feature of Roman Catholicism. Statues are forbidden by the Orthodox Church. Icons on the other hand are considered "documents", not "idols" since they were used to illustrate the Bible stories and the life of Jesus to a mostly illiterate populace in medieval times. Veneration of icons is a continuation of the biblical practice of venerating the scrolls of the Torah in ancient times.

[KeithTruth]

@alpidistra Can you show me where Polycarp, Clement and Ignatius venerated idols? That would help prove they were EO. Where did they affirm the EO marrian beliefs such as mediator of grace, perpetual virgin, sinless. Showing they had a similar liturgy (asserting it) doesn't prove they were EO. Romanists and EO have many similarities, but that doesn't make them the same. In Reformed churches there are elders (bishops) and deacons. I think you're ignorant friend.

[KeithTruth]

@alpidistra I don't subscribe to born again American evangelical Christianity. I hold to Reformed Theology which Gill, Needham, Fesko, Oden and others have found many strands of in the early church. But of course a close minded person like yourself won't look into those matters.

[alpidistra]

@KeithTruth You pick and choose the history that suites your agenda, since the Orthoodox Saints you quoted in your film just so happen to be the authors of the Divine Liturgy still used today by the Eastern Orthodox Church for its Sunday services.Irenaeus, Polycarp, Clement etc. all clearly followed a specific organizational structure, liturgy and teaching still in use today in the Orthodox Church.They were bishops, deacons, patriarchs, NOT BIBLE FELLOWSHIP PASTORS!!!

[alpidistra]

@KeithTruth Are you then asking us to believe that somehow, "authentic Christianity" was absent from the earth for approximately 1,600 years until it showed up again in America in the form of Born Again Evangelical Christianity?So if it wasn't for the American Born Again Evangelical movement, the world wouldn't know the meaning of Jesus Christ's teachings?Wow, you people have assumed a self-importance that staggers the imagination! Thank God for Calvary Chapel!!