22-27 -United Pentecostals -VS- Christianity - DEBATE

They were As their name implies, the United Pentecostals were once a part of the Pentecostal Churches, and the Assemblies of God. They were excommunicated from this fellowship for their denial of accepted Christian theology. The United Pentecostals now claim salvation exclusively in their ranks due to their "special understanding" of God and baptism. Dr. Walter Martin and Cal Beisner Debate Dr. Nathaniel Urshan and Robert Sabin. Topics on The Trinity, Salvation, Baptism.

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[jobbins008]

There is no trinity in the Old Testament. If God is the same forever why can't we find an example of ALL THREE together in the O.T.? You can't because God Himself stated, Here O Israel, the Lord thy God is ONE Lord. Not split up into three. Absolutely One with no divisions.

[soranneo]

Listen to brother Martin again while he clearly explains it.

[theembracedofgod]

Brother martin is my hero ^.^

[soranneo]

You know it !!!

[077watchman]

I Know His Name

ONLY" true name of the Savior...Yahuwshua!

[chiguera85gmailcom]

OBEY ACTS 2:38!!!!!!!!!

[jobbins008]

16. There is only one throne in heaven (Revelation 4:2). Who sits upon it? We know Jesus does

(Revelation 1:8, 18, 4:8). Where do the Father and the Holy Spirit sit?

[jobbins008]

1. Did Jesus Christ have two fathers? The Father is the Father of the Son (I John 1:3), yet the child born of Mary was conceived by the Holy Ghost (Matthew 1:18, 20; Luke 1:35). Which one is the true Father?

[jobbins008]

@beesh1on1 Any example or hint of pluralism ANY WHERE in the Bible does not point to a trinity of persons. What a weak stance to take. Answer this one simple question for me. Point out an OT scripture where the Son, or Jesus is present. And no, prophecies don't count.

[beesh1on1]

@jobbins008 did you listen to anything these people have been saying for the past couple hours or did you just jump on here here to make a point?

[cheagan]

7 min. mark: these guys are CALVINISTS, and simply are unwilling to admit it!

Glory to God!

[63lee63]

The men from the UPC won't answer any direct question with a direct answer. They dodge, get off the point or say, I'll answer that when you answer my question.

[vospopulux]

@jobbins008 its funny that in Hebrew it's literally translated like this...

Hear oh Isreal (ONE nation, many persons) The Master our Gods (Elohim = Plural, NOT El, Eloha = numerically singular, usually referenced toward pagan gods btw) is ONE (Echad = one in union i.e. man and woman ONE flesh TWO persons, NOT Yachid = numerically singular) Master!

You just want to believe SOOO badly that Jesus never existed before the creation with the Father (John 17:5) Jesus WAS already with God John 1:1 !!!!

[vospopulux]

@isaacBG84 So Jesus lied about the baptism formula? Just like he lied about his pre-existence? Just as he lied about sharing glory with the Father before the creation of the world John 17:5? Just like John 1:1 is a lie that He was with God in the beginning? Read your bible bro! Who is the liar?