The Wipers - No Fair

The Wipers were a punk rock group formed in Portland, Oregon in 1977 by guitarist Greg Sage, drummer Sam Henry and bassist Dave Koupal. Wipers were one of the earliest American purveyors of the genre, and the group's tight song structure and use of heavy distortion has been hailed as extremely influential by numerous critics and musicians, including Nirvana, who covered several of their songs.

Youth of America is the second album by the punk band Wipers. The album marks a distinctive change in the band's sound. Compared to its predecessor Is This Real?, which was composed mostly of raw, sleek and relatively traditional songs, Youth of America features much longer and complex compositions; the title track alone clocks in at over 10 minutes. This change of pace was according to Greg Sage a deliberate counter-reaction against the trend of releasing short songs, which many punk bands did at the time. The album was, according to Sage, not well-received in the United States at the time of its release, though it did fare better in Europe. Along with other records by the Wipers, Youth of America has since come to be acknowledged as an important album in the development of American underground and independent rock movements of the early 80s.

1."No Fair" - 4:25
2."Youth of America" - 10:30
3."Taking Too Long" - 3:05
4."Can This Be" - 2:55
5."Pushing the Extreme" - 3:15
6."When It's Over" - 6:30

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[SmutJunction]

One of the best songs ever recorded. Literally, no exaggeration. Classical through the techno psych stylings of MGMT.... nothing beats the first 3 Wipers albums. They are the band that I could listen to daily forever. Greg Sage is the only rock idol. Halleluja, Jesus!

[SmutJunction]

@wipers86 Ehh there's plenty of good stuff out there if you look. I get surprised whenever I go out to open mics and stuff just how much talent there really is out there. I get humbled by that fact. The artists we know of from before the internet age were lucky, same as now. They get lucky, and then people worship them as the pinnacles of their art. The wipers were amazing, no doubt. Out of those who got lucky, I'm glad the Wipers did get lucky... but don't become deluded by appearances.

[SmutJunction]

So to follow up on my previous comment, he didn't go "wrong". He did exactly what he wanted to do. He made a product which people liked and he shared it. That's commerce right there. The only thing which makes commerce a bad thing is the system by which it is controlled. Greg Sage still made profit off his music. He made profit off other things he did. He was still a man of the system, and therefore as a man of the system, you are subject to commerce in all its corrupt and bloody glory.

[SmutJunction]

@wipers86 It's just a timeline. MGMT is the newest "thing" I'm familiar with, and honestly they aren't that bad. This is coming from a person who's listened to Electric Wizard and even heavier more dissonant bands for years. So commercial or not commercial, in the end where Greg Sage went wrong was he assumed that there wouldn't be demand for a product he purposely produced. It would be a small-minded lie to think that Greg Sage never wanted anyone to hear his music.