Greg Graffin - Sorrow - Harvard Memorial Church

Greg Graffin performs an acoustic version of "Sorrow" at Harvard's Memorial Church after receiving a lifetime achievement award from Harvard's Humanist Chaplaincy

Filmed on behalf of the Humanist Chaplaincy at Harvard:

www.harvardhumanist.org

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[pacheconline]

Graffin for President!

[BigPapaSmurfy]

Just because someone is an athiest doesn't mean they should feel out of place in a church or hesitate to play at one. Greg is only proving even further how much of an open and tolerant mind he has.

[bitchinstitches]

@Nirvana451994Cobain Greg Graffin is a Humanist. Read his book, Anarchy Evolution.

[Nirvana451994Cobain]

@hendenburg2 no but Greg Graffin is an atheist he doesn't believe in god I know I've read Anarchy evolution and it's apparent if you listen to almost any Bad Religion song.

[MassLiberal1]

@hendenburg2 Deism isn't compatible w/ a consistent naturalism. Unless the deist god is also a product of nature, but then why call it 'God'? And how is deism is a form of Christianity? They explicitly reject the miracles that the Christian religion is said to be founded on.

[hendenburg2]

@MassLiberal1 Again, not true. the first Humanists and Naturalists were Renaissance Christians. Deism, which was a form of Christianity started by Sir Isaac Newton and his contemporaries, stated that God created the universe according to the laws of physics that we observe and study today. God then proceeded to walk away and not interfere. being either humanist or naturalist does not automatically make someone an atheist

[Nirvana451994Cobain]

@MassLiberal1 Thank you couldn't have said it better myself

[Nirvana451994Cobain]

atheist isn't a philosophy it's simply not believing in a deity you can be a atheist and a humanist, which is what I consider myself

[MassLiberal1]

@hendenburg2 No, 'atheism' doesn't mean belief in nothing, just non-belief in any deities. Although there's no necessity for atheists to also be humanists and naturalists most are. Indeed how can you even be a naturalist (no supernatural beleifs) w/o being an atheist? If you don't like the atheist label fine, but if you lack a belief in gods that's what you are. Atheist=Humanist=Naturalist.

[hendenburg2]

@Nirvana451994Cobain as i explained to MassLiberal1, "atheist" and "humanist" and "naturalist" are not the same thing. it's like calling a "nihilist," (destroy everything) an "anarchist" (destroy government and society) and an "anarcho-syndachist" (destroy government but keep society) the same thing.

[hendenburg2]

@MassLiberal1, there are actually distinct differences. "atheist" literally means you believe in absolutely nothing. "naturalist" means you believe in the natural world, laws of physics etc... "humanist" means you believe in human values (law, ethics, logic) instead of supernatural values (dogma, rites, rituals, books with unknown authorship and origin) as the basis for a moral code.