A Scandal in Bohemia Part 3 of 6 (Sherlock Holmes)

Sherlock Holmes by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle. Not as good as the book, but still worth watching.

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[Raeyven76]

No one can equal or even come close to Jeremy Brett's Holmes. He played the character perfectly, capturing Holmes's quirkiness and aloofness and doing such a brilliant job at roleplaying characters when in disguise. Both Hardwicke and Burke handled the role of Watson just right, managing to capture the relationship between him and Holmes and yet not make him out to be a complete idiot. Stories were kept true to the originals and the era re-created beautifully. Will never be bettered!

[nenuok]

Brett is such a brilliant actor!

[va3svd]

@tiemedown I think people are averse to the latter because it flies directly in the face of *everything* we know about both Holmes and Watson. The desire to sexualize everything on the part of modern humans is quite repulsive; it is very possible for two entirely straight men to have a deep friendship without it being a sexual or sexually-charged relationship.

Holmes is not nearly so paranthropic as you'd suggest, or modern filmmakers seem to want to present him.

[tiemedown]

A definite plausible argument that does not proclude a relationship based off passion and not just fealty. I get your argument and it is supported by evidence but for many Holmes' relationships to every facet of human emotion are unique therefore an attraction of personalities could in fact be his only warm human outlet. I think both options are equally viable and I dont get why people are so averse to the latter. Holmes' regard for everyone and everything seems to be beyond our labels

[CaptainAndyman]

@tiemedown If there is any love between Watson and Holmes, it can only be said to be of an entirely brotherly nature, nothing romantic or sexual. The Blanched Soldier is an interesting one for Holmes's views on Watson (as it is written from Holmes's pov). Speaking of Watson, he says "if I burden myself with a companion... it is not done out of sentiment or caprice, but it is that Watson has some remarkable characteristics of his own". He finds Watson useful, but Holmes is always above emotions.

[tiemedown]

@CaptainAndyman plus one could have a friendship with someone and enjoy sex with them at these times ( the poetry of Katherine Philip) and not consider it in the same light of a conventional marriage. the concept of attraction through intellect was popularized by the defense of Oscar Wilde and the only way I feel in which Sherlock Holmes would have entertained any desires in his 'mental attic', you can argue against this but what I'm saying is that it is not absolutely impossible in canon.

[tiemedown]

However, in the Three Garridebs Holmes admits that he would forsake the law entirely if Watson had died. Watson has been portrayed as being slow witted and slothful when in reality canon-lovers know him to be a resilient handsome man made slightly bitter by war: in this way could the relationship between Watson and Holmes be underplayed? I think it is logical to argue a relationship or a friendship easily without one lessoning the effect of the other.

[tiemedown]

I disagree. Holmes often quotes that he keeps things from watson for his 'own protection', the same self serving possessiveness that touches all of his ineractions. And yet Watson is the only person he chooses to expose these machinations to, his addiction, his vulnerabilities. Holmes is not tactile yet manhandles watson, even his own brother is a means to an end while Watson is a desired accomplice. I am not saying Holmes character is in any way changed, he still puts intellect first

[CaptainAndyman]

@tiemedown But in The Dying Detective, Holmes still didn't tell Watson the truth until the very end, putting his work first as always. Similarly, in The Empty House, Holmes only reveals to Watson he has survived at the latest possible moment and because he needs his help. Their relationship was nothing more than friendship, possibly so remarkably close only because Holmes had very few other true friends and certainly none who tolerated him to the extent Watson would.

[greengrendel]

@tiemedown Well, if he says so :)

[tiemedown]

@greengrendel Oscar Wilde, who convinced Doyle to continue on with the character, might disagree with you

[tiemedown]

@CaptainAndyman And yet Holmes' thoughts were interpreted by Watson who, God love him, was an honest but faulty omniscent. Often Holmes breaks his passionless routine for Watson's sake. What people dont seem to understand is that Holmes could have loved Watson while still maintaining his asexuality. Not wanting physicality but instead desiring intimacy cerebrally still is indicative of a possessive and enduring relationship. I reference empty house dying detective and three garridebs primarily