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@LA55A51N0 That was the point I was making. MMA cannot be used as a proxy for real fighting because it has rules.
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Well thanks to the advert, i promise I'll never holiday in NI.
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@PhantomgreenQBS You can't really piggyback claims of effectiveness on "similarity." Judo it is widely tested against resisting opponents both within and outside its art, and every practitioner at least tests the former in randori. All I can see is anecdotal evidence for the effectiveness of Aikido against a resisting opponent. And any non-Shodokan Aikidoka has no way of knowing whether HIS training has done him any good until it's too late
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Thats a bonus XD
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@josephdorrell MMA is a sport.
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@zorandesign Of course, you don't have the word "demonstration" in your dictionary. There are many different variations for techniques depending on the situation. Don't go crying just because Aikido isn't an art which doesn't strike the opponent. Instead, it makes the opponent - or people like you - seem like a complete failure since Aikido does so much damage with so little effort. Go up to your nearest AIkido dojo and punch them as fast as you can. Then let's see who's complaining.
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@zorandesign dude im training mma or shooto how its called in germany and i tried this one in my muay thai class.it worked for me there as my opponent reached for my neck for the muay thai clinch. it only does work if he has already one hand on the back of your head and you then you know where the second hand probably will reach for...on the street it works great against frontal pushing..try it out!
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The term "MUNE" in japanese means chest and not head... MUNE TSUKI don't means head punch!!!
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Haha, ofcourse this works, but WHO THE HELL TRIES TO HIT SO SLOWLY ??? In the ring, you wont have such slow enemy if you do professional fighting. No K-1 fighter will let you catch his hand like that. So, it's not that effective. The most complete fighting technique does not exist, it is a combination of Karate,Kickboxing and Wrestling. End of the talk.
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@jaypresinal But Bas himself has hardly lost. Hell, at least he fought, which is more than I can say for Steven Seagal, Christian Tissier, or any of those other Aikido faggots.
No. It's not steven seagal style. It's Aikido... which steven seagal does.
dasgregorian 2 years ago 11
A similar situation where "real fighters" laugh at Aikido or Judo techniques is actually found in MMA. So many great strikers have said that Karo Parisyan could never use his silly judo crap on them, and I have seen many of those same strikers get flipped on their necks like lightning. These techniques in aikido are similar. Of course a one year novice might not be able to use them effectively, but someone with more training uses them like they are just breathing
PhantomgreenQBS 2 years ago 9