If you'd know anything about Illyrians and other peoples of ancient Illyricum than you would know that they did NOT share nor the same language nor the same material culture ... The Liburnians (and not the Librunians!) are not Illyrians! Please, do read the scholarly works written by Prof. Radoslav Katičić, Prof. Slobodan Čače and Prof. Anamarija Kurilić, if you want to learn something about that fascinating people inhabiting the Eastern Adriatic (between rivers Raša and Krka).
@TheBosnianPyramids my good sir, if bosnians were illyrians, they would be very similar to albanians. you would also speak a language that is albanian if not very close to it. bosnians however are slavic, as ethnicity is identified linguistically.
if you want to talk genetics, the balkans is so mixed and mashed that the greeks, albanians, and Romanians all large slavic influence.
@MrAlbalover go read what is the genetic haplogroup for slavs? belorus,poles and russians have R1A...there is only 15% R1a in serb population and only 29-30% R1a in croat population...Does that answer your question??? In poland its like 50-60 % and the same with belorus and russia like 40-50 %. they have more R1a than THE BALKANS.... GO FIGURE.... the inhabitants just adopted the slavic language BUT DIDN'T CHANGE THEIR GENETIC phenotype..
@BOGZASV8MA Really blood remain same ?? Then why on earth are there Serbian Bosnians , Croatian Bosnians & ( finally ! ) Bosnians ?? These are 3 different ethnic groups which represent your ethnically mixed country..From a first view if I had to tell who are the Illyrians amongst the 3 different ethnic groups of Bosnia I would say Bosnians ! Not Serbo-Croatian Bosnians ! I didnt say you have nothing common with Illyria - I just said the real - clean Illyrians remaining in Bosnia are very FEW !
@MrAlbalover you made one incomplete assessment and thats genetics...languages can change but blood will remain the same .... why don't you look at the results from national geographics genographic study -family tree DNA instead of wikipedia and see where you shqips really come from AND HOW LONG?????
@BOGZASV8MA Why am I a liar?If you except what I wrongly said about your alphabet everything else r just FACTS ! Due to the barbarian invasions your language is a Serbo- Croatian mix and many elements of Bosnia are represented from 3 different sectors (Serbians , Croatians & Bosnians) just like your football federation. That prooves that Bosnians are not ethnically clean but mixed with Serbs & Croatians.That is why you lost your Illyrian language.The only who still speak Illyrian are Albanians
There are many Albanians in Montenegro for example that have been forced to transform their last names into slavic ones: Marvukaj-Marvukic; Kurti-Kurtovic, etj. etj even though they are 100% Albanians.
I wouldn't be surprised if the same happened to ancient Illyrians in Bosnia and Croatia. Take in consideration that there was no strong national identity 1300 years ago.
If you'd know anything about Illyrians and other peoples of ancient Illyricum than you would know that they did NOT share nor the same language nor the same material culture ... The Liburnians (and not the Librunians!) are not Illyrians! Please, do read the scholarly works written by Prof. Radoslav Katičić, Prof. Slobodan Čače and Prof. Anamarija Kurilić, if you want to learn something about that fascinating people inhabiting the Eastern Adriatic (between rivers Raša and Krka).
akurilic 3 months ago
@CARMINEOWNZ you are wrong when it comes to ethnicity
ethnicity is soomething that a group of people is associated
not by linguistic terms
it is like saying that americans are English
yet they are not
teslic100 6 months ago
@TheBosnianPyramids my good sir, if bosnians were illyrians, they would be very similar to albanians. you would also speak a language that is albanian if not very close to it. bosnians however are slavic, as ethnicity is identified linguistically.
if you want to talk genetics, the balkans is so mixed and mashed that the greeks, albanians, and Romanians all large slavic influence.
CARMINEOWNZ 6 months ago
@MrAlbalover go read what is the genetic haplogroup for slavs? belorus,poles and russians have R1A...there is only 15% R1a in serb population and only 29-30% R1a in croat population...Does that answer your question??? In poland its like 50-60 % and the same with belorus and russia like 40-50 %. they have more R1a than THE BALKANS.... GO FIGURE.... the inhabitants just adopted the slavic language BUT DIDN'T CHANGE THEIR GENETIC phenotype..
BOGZASV8MA 9 months ago
@BOGZASV8MA Really blood remain same ?? Then why on earth are there Serbian Bosnians , Croatian Bosnians & ( finally ! ) Bosnians ?? These are 3 different ethnic groups which represent your ethnically mixed country..From a first view if I had to tell who are the Illyrians amongst the 3 different ethnic groups of Bosnia I would say Bosnians ! Not Serbo-Croatian Bosnians ! I didnt say you have nothing common with Illyria - I just said the real - clean Illyrians remaining in Bosnia are very FEW !
MrAlbalover 9 months ago
@MrAlbalover you made one incomplete assessment and thats genetics...languages can change but blood will remain the same .... why don't you look at the results from national geographics genographic study -family tree DNA instead of wikipedia and see where you shqips really come from AND HOW LONG?????
BOGZASV8MA 9 months ago
@BOGZASV8MA Why am I a liar?If you except what I wrongly said about your alphabet everything else r just FACTS ! Due to the barbarian invasions your language is a Serbo- Croatian mix and many elements of Bosnia are represented from 3 different sectors (Serbians , Croatians & Bosnians) just like your football federation. That prooves that Bosnians are not ethnically clean but mixed with Serbs & Croatians.That is why you lost your Illyrian language.The only who still speak Illyrian are Albanians
MrAlbalover 9 months ago
@MrAlbalover lier
BOGZASV8MA 9 months ago
@MrAlbalover bosnjaks have a latin alphabet not cyrillic.. Get your facts straight..
ajnadzic 9 months ago
There are many Albanians in Montenegro for example that have been forced to transform their last names into slavic ones: Marvukaj-Marvukic; Kurti-Kurtovic, etj. etj even though they are 100% Albanians.
I wouldn't be surprised if the same happened to ancient Illyrians in Bosnia and Croatia. Take in consideration that there was no strong national identity 1300 years ago.
nindoda 1 year ago