Propane fire training

Western Propane Gass Association training Mendocino County (CA) firefighters on how to handle a burning propane tank. Do not attempt to stop a propane fire with a hose or extinguisher- call 911 immediately and tell the dispatcher if the tank is venting (blowing flame in the air or away from the tank).

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[pipish09]

I am an Industrial Rescue and Fire instructor, and if I EVER saw any of my guys training in this manner without respiratory protection on... I would skid them off site in a heart beat. "Controled" atmosphere or not... accidents do and will happen if ALL procedures are not followed at all times. If you wouldnt work without it. You shouldn't train without it.

[agent630]

That is a semi-controlled fire. Yes, there is a valve to turn the gas flow off. But you said it best yourself, "in a real life incident you would have scba's on" What is that they are doing, a cartoon show? Looks pretty real life to me. And remember: train like you play and you will play like you train. And I am giving it a rest and moving on. I just want firefighters to stay safe and not get hurt at the hands of a shotty instructor.

[zinger91]

@Wrjorgen no its not its a good sign becuse it means the valve has not frozen over and it is less likely to have BLEVE because it is releseing the overpressure like the bottel is disigned to do. yes when we approach we have one line on full fog and one slowly opening the closer we get untill both are full fog too.

[god27dog]

@pipish09 if you dont have, and must to do?

[TheChris1500]

thats a poor sign of the training officer. shall have mask on durying any live fire training. (if they would have brokin the fire stream they would have been in the middle of a fire ball. not smart training officer

[benford1]

As far as no SCBA...NFPA 1403 states that SCBA is to be worn for ALL live fire training including Propane Fires! I have had pump operations go wrong and the pressure drop on one line due to some debris in the lines. This caused the fire to roll around the low pressure side and damage the gear on that crew. If not for SCBA and proper PPE, there would have been 3 or 4 firefighters and myself in a hospital. WEAR THE RIGHT GEAR AND WEAR THE RIGHT GEAR RIGHT!

[effinbidner]

no scba...idiots

[druns71]

Im glad clubkid43 isnt on my crew, saving someones ass because theyre to foolish to protect themselves doesnt sit well with me.

[jlbalr]

amen

[crabtrap]

second Q; when the relief valve "relives" could it propel the 20lbs tank (like a rocket)?

[crabtrap]

to any FFers here;i had a deck fire (check my utube account for vid) the deck had 2 -20lbs tanks that did not rupture one butane bottle did.Q is:what happens when a relief valve blows in a fire?is it a column of flame? i had 2 cast aluminuim grills on deck that the aluminuim turned to powder as did the aluminum siding. a standard wood (deck)fire would not do this and my only answer id the tanks torched the grills in a propane column.

view my video page to see the damage

[daveroni12]

hello there... is this one firefighter reaching through the wall to shut that valve off and how he heck is he doing that?? would that not provide a hole for the propane to rush through and cause serious damage? sir if you dont mind me asking you these questions it would be greatly appreciated if you could reply to these. where are you instructing? i respect what you wrote.. please take care. d