THE SHROUD AND THE GARDEN TOMB ARE CONNECTED EPISODE 5.

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CLIP 5 OF 5 end of documentary the vital peace of evidence shows the man on the turin shroud to be the same height as the grave in the Garden Tomb to be around 6 foot. The Gospels tell us that after Joseph of Arimathea claimed Jesus body from the Romans, he wrapped it in a clean linen cloth and placed it in his own new tomb nearby.
For centuries legends have persisted about this cloth in which Jesus was buried. A 10th century painting of a man named Abgar of Edessa, ruler of the kingdom of Osroene (in what is now Turkey), holding a white cloth with the image of Jesus Christ on it. At the turn of the 13th century a crusader knight by the name of Robert de Clari claims to have seen Christs burial shroud, bearing his image, in Constantinople, where it was said to be raised every friday.
The cloth that we know today as the Shroud of Turin originates with the descendent of another Templar Knight, Geoffroi de Charny, who displayed it in a Paris museum. Controversy surrounded the artifact back then just as it does today, and it was removed from display by the authorities, changing hands several times before falling into the ownership of a Louis of Savoy, an Italian duke who allowed it to travel from city to city, kept in a lavish case lined with red silk, decorated with silver and locked with a golden key.
In the 16th century there was a fire in the chapel in which the shroud was being stored, which caused a drop of molten silver to burn through the folded cloth. Attempts were made to repair the damage, which can still be seen clearly.
The Shroud of Turin shows the image of a man, front and back as would be expected if it were wrapped around a body for burial purposes. The outline of the man is clearly visible, though very subtle with no definite lines or angles, but you can see the mans face, crossed hands, shoulders, legs and feet distinctly. The shroud is marked by blood stains which match precisely the wounds that a man crucified by the Romans would have suffered - scourge wounds from the flagram or whip, puncture marks around the head where Jesus was said to have worn a crown of thorns, and the darkest blood stain of all near where the mans heart, which would have been caused by the spear that pierced him while he hung. There are blood stains also on the wrists of the man of the shroud, which would have been where the Romans drove nails through when they crucified him, not through the hands where many contemporary paintings show these wounds to be. The images of the mans cheek bones appear swollen, as if he had been beaten, which we know Jesus was. All in all, the wounds of the man of the shroud correspond exactly to the biblical description of the crucifixion of Jesus Christ.
How the image on the Shroud of Turin was formed remains a mystery even to todays scientists. In 1978 a team of American scientists and researchers, the Shroud of Turin Research Project, were allowed to conduct a series of scientific experiments in order to try to determine the origins of the shroud. Their conclusions are regarded today as the most comprehensive set of scientific data about the shroud anywhere in the world, and some of the team continue to seek answers to questions regarding its authenticity. STURP issued its final report in 1981, which states as follows:READ THE book for free at Our Search for the Tomb of Jesus BOOK http://www.realdiscoveries.com/articles.php?cat=268 Visit our Web Site www.realdiscoveries.org VISIT OUR WEB SITE WWW.REALDISCOVERIES.COM

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[cowbellpeaceprize]

Your website seems to agree with Ron Wyatt, a known opportunist and liar. This bothers me. The shroud of Turin wouldn't be touched by Jews as unclean. It's been proven to be a fake made in the 1300s. The Catholics like to fool the people with made up miracles and self made saints to keep them coming to church.

[realdiscoveries]

@cowbellpeaceprize Your terrible words and condemnation also bothers me. You will one day stand before God and tell him why you destroyed with your WORDS the most important tool of the most important event in history which the Lord God has reserved to strengthen believers and prove TO unbelievers his word is TRUE AND He PROVES IT. If you don't believe it your only deceiving your self not me. Ron Wyatt,TOLD ONLY THE TRUTH.

[realdiscoveries]

@cowbellpeaceprize Your terrible words and condemnation also bothers me. You will one day stand before God and tell him why you destroyed with your WORDS the most important tool of the most important event in history which the Lord God has reserved to strengthen believers and prove TO unbelievers his word is TRUE AND He PROVES IT. If you don't believe it your only deceiving your self not me. Ron Wyatt,TOLD ONLY THE TRUTH.

[realdiscoveries]

Question: Have you ever compared the dimensions of the Shroud of Turin to those of the Tomb in the Garden? Barrie Schwortz

Turin is not a stable substrate. In other words, it can be stretched, it can be moved, and as a matter of fact, through the centuries the Shroud of Turin has

[realdiscoveries]

actually been displayed, hung from balconies at one end with weights on the other end to keep it from flapping in the wind! So obviously a certain amount of stretching is inevitable with the Shroud of Turin, particularly on

[realdiscoveries]

the long dimension because that's the way it was often displayed. Now, the other thing one has to consider is that this is a linen, finely-woven linen cloth, and it can change its length by as much as a centimeter or more based solely on the humidity in which the shroud itself is kept. So there many variables and there's great debate about exactly how tall the man on the shroud is.

[regardingwave]

@cowbellpeaceprize You obviously have not researched the evidence yourself. That carbon dating is now known to be wrong as the samples that were analyzed were indeed from the middle ages because they were NEW pieces sewn on. Flowers have been found on the shroud that were only indiginous to 1st century Jerusalem, also, the actual weave that was used to make the shroud, was also only used during Jesus time. And it is known that the image on the shroud was made by a form of radiation.

[Porphyrygrampus]

@cowbellpeaceprize But as Jesus wouldn't have been considered as dead by his disciples who had met and talked to him several times, the shroud would not have been associated with death or seen as unclean.

No one proved it to be a fake. The one thing science has failed to do is show how it was faked. There's only the carbon 14 test that accurately dates the material in a rewoven corner of the cloth.

[Porphyrygrampus]

@MistyMarie1970 There are stories he went to Japan and they even show his grave there. But it is more likely to be a confusion between the name Jesus and the Jesuits. The Jesuit missionaries were martyred by the Emperor once they started to be too successful in getting converts. After all if you claim you're a God Emperor you don't like competition.

As for Kashmir, as the Moslems claim Jesus was never crucified but a twin brother instead, that sort of fraud would be right up their street.

[MistyMarie1970]

I am just wondering, does this prove Jesus was dead. am asking as i recently came across some stories that he may have survived, and there are other stories that he survived and went to kashmir, where he later died. they claim to have his tomb and an imprint of his feet with the nail holes. also is there any studied connection between the shroud and face cloth.

[Porphyrygrampus]

@cowbellpeaceprize As for the idea that Jews would consider the Shroud unclean, this fails to realize that the disciples, once they realized he was alive and resurrected, would not have associated the Shroud with a corpse but with a living body, and would have preserved the Shroud as a key proof of the miracle of the resurrection.

Bizarrely, when I google Wyatt and Shroud, I hit sceptical sites that say Wyatt claimed to have discovered "how the Shroud was faked". So he doesn't seem a supporter?

[Porphyrygrampus]

@Porphyrygrampus In point of fact one can say that the key research done that shows the Shroud is highly likely to be authentically Jesus's is not the work of the Catholic Church at all.

As for Ron Wyatt argument, that is typical of the guilt or falsehood by association argument. It runs as follows. "My cousin is a fool. AND he believes in ghosts. Therefore ghosts must be wrong." Classical logical failure...

[Porphyrygrampus]

@cowbellpeaceprize Or, more likely in your case, you are one of those sectarian Calvinist Protestants who on ideological grounds automatically reject all 'relics' as fake (which is a bit like saying there cd be no relics of Charlemagne or Napoleon). You're too ignorant to realize that the STURP scientist team that did thousands of hours of research on it included many Prots, and one of the main defender of the Shroud as that of the "man Jesus" is the Jew, Barrie Schwortz. See videos on my side.

[Porphyrygrampus]

@cowbellpeaceprize Dreary people who don't bother to read the contributions or do more research on YT and the net, but go on about "proven a fake" without even knowing about all the research since then that shows that that date was wrong (for instance the vanillin test mentioned in my previous post) cannot even begin to convince anyone that they are a) hard-working enough to learn anything new b) really interested in science at all, rather than terrified Christianity might be true.