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15 Million Near Death Experiences a Year...Invisible Guardians: Angels or a Brain Function?


John Geiger, Credit: Daniel J. Catt
By Judi Ketteler

On September 11, 2001, Ron DiFrancesco went to work at Euro Brokers, a financial trading firm on the 84th floor of the South Tower of the World Trade Center, like it was any other day. He was at his desk when the first plane hit the North Tower at 8:46 a.m. A friend called and told him to get out. He headed toward the elevators when the second plane hit his tower at 9:03 a.m. That left the stairs as the only way out. In all the commotion, he quickly got stuck on a smoke-filled landing at the 80th floor, blocked by a collapsed wall. People around him were panicking, gasping for air and crouching low to breathe. DiFrancesco lay down on the concrete floor for a minute, feeling hopeless. Then he heard a voice telling him to get up.

The voice didn't belong to any of the people around him, but it was as real as any human voice to DiFrancesco. A strong presence of someone unseen was guiding him, directing him to another stairwell, telling him to break through the flames. He essentially ran into the fire to escape it, and though flames surrounded him as he made his way down three stories, he did find a clear path on the 76th floor and was able to escape just as the building was coming down. He was the last person out of the South Tower before it collapsed at 9:59 a.m.

This is one of hundreds of accounts (both verbal and written) of being aided by an invisible guardian, coined in a T.S. Eliot poem as the third man, explored in John Geiger's new book, "The Third Man Factor: Surviving the Impossible." Geiger researched this phenomenon -- when someone seems trapped in a life-or-death situation, only to be led to safety by a presence that feels as real as the danger -- for six years, combing through books, newspaper accounts, personal journals and psychological research, as well as interviewing people who have been aided by an unseen helper.

In an interview with AOL Health, Geiger explores the "third man" phenomenon that many adventurers, as well as people in the wrong place at the wrong time, have described. He explains that, while these occurrences may sound like a good old-fashioned "invisible friend," the "third man" is anything but child's play or make-believe.

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[KamikazeKoscki]

Youtube and listen to Gary Zukav, the book "Seat of the Soul" and "Dancing with Wu Li Masters" indicates that humans cannot exist with light and light cannot exist with humans. Waves interact with the galaxies, ones thoughts interact with the galaxies, all atoms of a conscience.

[Yourdeadmeat69]

Equating oxygen deprivation with an "afterlife" is the height of childishness. It is as if the mind snaps at the thought loved ones are immutably and forever lost, so much so, a fantasy life has to be invoked, to mollify the utter unequivacable loss of those who are dear.

Breaking from reality may be the answer to some.

I think this life deserves more consideration, as a monument to those that went before.

Whatever happens after life, will happen no matter WHAT we think or do.

[KamikazeKoscki]

Youtube and listen to Gary Zukav, the book "Seat of the Soul" and "Dancing with Wu Li Masters" indicates that humans cannot exist with light and light cannot exist with humans. Waves interact with the galaxies, ones thoughts interact with the galaxies, all atoms of a conscience.

[KamikazeKoscki]

Physicist have pushed our understanding of sub-atomic particles into the realm of metaphysics and parapsychology. They have found particles, called neutrinos, which seem to move backward in time. These particles have no charge, no mass, and the ability to penetrate the entire earth's atoms.

100 fundamental particles has strengthened this kind of thinking. Hadrons are viewed as mass less strings of things whose ends move with the speed of light in several dimensions

[shtosuka]

Yeah, I don't see how a human's personal experience has any weight in what actually happens to us after we die. Why should it be surprising that one might "see" family members or "the light." I mean, think about how vividly we can dream...

[KamikazeKoscki]

A family member has involved in a car accident, and the mother and son were in separate emergency rooms. The doctor said to Johnny stay with us your mother is waiting for you. Johnny replies I know she is at the white castle and I am going to go meet with her. Johnny did not know his mother was pronounced dead in the other room.

[eightfootmanchild]

A real miracle would be if a Hindu had a vision of Jesus, or a Christian a vision of Muhammad, or a Muslim a vision of Brahma.

These hallucinations prove the existence of the human brain. That's all.

[OneBigRetard]

I saw a light! Therefore God exists.

Nice logic.

[OneBigRetard]

@EastofForever

This is like being on a comment thread with Peter Ustinov.

Go pro dude.

[EastofForever]

@OneBigRetard @ an hour shorter than it took for you to come up with yours...

[OneBigRetard]

@EastofForever

Brilliant. How long for you to come up with that?

[EastofForever]

@OneBigRetard fitting s/n

[EastofForever]

@eightfootmanchild reductionistic gobbledygook.

btw, there are plenty of examples of muslims having visions of Jesus.

it's there if you WANT to look.

[StudioLegionXIIII]

RUBBISH!!!!

[smutyhouse]

@Yourdeadmeat69 sorry screwed up the first message. i was just going to say, i completely agree, and your point is very nicely put

[smutyhouse]

@Yourdeadmeat69

[mujinnokoya]

Two words: Pope Springsteen.

[Yourdeadmeat69]

Whatever happens after life, is there already, and it makes no difference if we grovel on our knees or not. I don't know how a Supreme being suddenly needed all this attention to survive, but apparently he seems to need adulation and egosalving on a worldwide scale.

Doesn't sound very omnicient to me.