Galloway - Wiping Israel off the Map, again?

This argument comes up far too often, but they usually phrase it better than this guy...

Category:

News & Politics

Tags:

• george
• galloway
• wipe
• israel
• off
• map
• lie

[craigowler]

Palestine was mentioned in our - UK -school text books forty years ago. Go back a hundred years and atlases, geographyand history books contained the term Palestine not Israel.

[aleeyoui]

i have a palestinian identity, PALESTINA was mentioned in the holy quran several times, it is a state :)) like it or not

[nostalgic64]

The Israeli interior minister said he wanted to choose an arab town and destroy it this bbc article

watch?v=j1baTD9up5w

[TheRahimpur]

@craigowler

but, what is Palestine? the Romans took this name of the biblical enemies of the Jews- the philistines, in order to destroy what left of Jewish morale after the Bar Kochva rebel, so the name is truly all Hebrew. and what are the "Palestinians" if not converted Jews, who are fighting for a died cause?

[shadowofears]

Israel logic is based on deception even before Israel this land belonged to childrens of samaria which they wiped out to establish their own state Same goes for Americans who were also immigrants.Bible is just a poorly preserved document that contains numerous scientic errors & contradictions dont take it seriouly

[MikhaelMeir]

"also, there had been the people of Philistine living in those lands before any Jew settled there."

It's quite debatable that the ancient Philistines who resided in the coastal plain were there before the ancestors of the Jews arrived-(in ancient times the Philistines were sea peoples whilst the Jews were hill people)--but even if they were there longer, the present-day Arabs who've recently adopted the name "Palestinian" have no link with the ancient Philistines.

[MikhaelMeir]

"what the fuck happened to that covenant of yours... imagine that, having a contract that allows you to have that land... which begs another question, is Judea the same as Israel today? if so, when was the contract stuck together again?"

One need not be a believer in divine covenants to acknowledge the Jewish nation's right to self-determination in its ancestral homeland, that's what Zionism is about. Jews have always lived here and we are now independent again in a part of our land. 

[MikhaelMeir]

"Yisrael is a persons name, it was never given as name of any territory before you got expelled by the Romans"

False. There is ample proof of the "Malkhut Yisrael" (Kingdom of Israel) in the historical & archaeological records. It was one of several Jewish states to be located in this land; but there has never, ever, been an independent state called "Palestine" here that represented any nationality called "Palestinian".

[MikhaelMeir]

My father was born here in Jerusalem in 1932--so his British-issued documents when he was a kid said he was a citizen of "Palestine"...but he was Jewish. Other relatives of my father were born here when it was Turkish-controlled, but they weren't called "Palestinian" at that time, because the country wasn't even called that then. The Arabs back in the 1940s usually didn't even use the word "Palestinian" for themselves, they usually just said "Arab". So Golda was right, and Galloway's a fool.

[MikhaelMeir]

@BeardedClamMeister

Too right! I am an Israeli and a Zionist. I am not against in principle the establishment of a Palestinian Arab state next to my Israeli Jewish state, if (and only if) it demonstrates that it won't be a threat. I acknowledge the existence of a Palestinian national identity that has developed in the past few decades, but please let's lay to rest the myth of Palestinian nationhood being something real in ancient times.

[MikhaelMeir]

"oh so if you like gays you shouldnt really care about another human being who might be suffering, in need of medicine and a proper life"

If you care about human rights, gay rights, and other human beings who are suffering and in need of medicine you should support Israel against Hamas--a theocratic regime that denies its people basic human rights.

[MikhaelMeir]

Now, again, I have no problem if the local Arabs want to use a European-based name ("Palestinian") to describe themselves presently--that's their right. But please don't invent a mythologic "Palestinian people" with ancient roots. The local Arabs here very well may have lately developed a distinct Palestinian national identity, but this is a recent phenomenon. When Golda Meir made the assertion that historically speaking, there is no such thing as a "Palestinian People", she was correct.