Japanese ceremonial court music and the dance_3

This is 雅楽(Gagaku/the Japanese ceremonial court music) and thier traditional This is 雅楽(Gagaku/the Japanese ceremonial court music) and thier traditional dance in Kyoto-gosho(Kyoto-gosho =ex-houce-buildings for Japanese emperors). The musicians and the dancers are volunteers called 'Heian-hozon kai'.So I felt that they aint good for musics so much.but thier musical instruments are very difficult.I guess that they play these instrumentes as thier hobby.so i'm really envey them.

this is part-3.this is full musicians and 4dancers.and this is different one against 'part-2'. and i took this video from the front.

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[Yamatokanai]

Chinese culture underwent influence in India, Central Asia and Iran and was born.

The Chinese is selfish.

A Chinese can't open himself from a Chinese thought of a misunderstanding.

Gagaku is Japanese culture, it doesn't exist in China.

The thing a Chinese is doing is theft.

[1199megumi]

雅楽は日本の伝統文化なわけですが・・

やはりこの独特の音色が良いですね＾＾

こういった文化を日本人として私は

誇りに思います。

[NamelessTheGonbei]

Chinese are so shameless... they've not tried to keep their culture but destroyed it.

And now, when they find something good in other asian culture, they cry "oh, it's ours!".

Japanese people know that ancient Chinese culture "were" great, and Japanese culture was influenced by it partly. Japanese can be proud of their own culture and at the same time they admit Chinese (and of course Indian) elements in their culture.

But many Chinese can't understand what I say above. Stupid people.

[y1n10j100]

落ち着く

[gariadara]

@ForChwo Good for you. But this has never been an argument about eliteness or otherwise. I've always argued from an anthropological standpoint, I didn't want to argue sociology or politics. Again, let's use another term than. Rather than "Japanese," let's use Japonic. All the distinct dialects, yamato, or otherwise have been Japonic and was part of the Japonic cultural sphere. This sphere was born from merging of still more ancient Yayoi, Jomon, and proto-Korean peoples. Is that okay?

[gariadara]

@ForChwo if you're so uncomfortable with the terms Han or Chinese, let's use a different term to better represent the ethno-linguistic-cultural group entity. Let's just say rather something is Sinitic or not. Manchurians are not a Sinitic People. Hans are Sinitic. We've been talking about a Sinitic Civilization this whole time. Is that okay?

[gariadara]

@ForChwo What the hell are you talking about? The Qing didn't unite the Chinese. The Emperor of Qin did. Are you confusing the Qin and Qing dynasties? No one considered themselves "natives," they considered themselves Han. First, ethnicity has ALWAYS BEEN a human construct, so what's your point? Second, the Manchurians were non-Sino-Tibetans who invaded Ming Dynasty. They forced the Queue Order on the Chinese. While that certainly strengthened the Chinese identity, it's always been there.

[gariadara]

@ForChwo What the hell are you talking about? The Qing didn't unite the Chinese. The Emperor of Qin did. Are you confusing the Qin and Qing dynasties? No one considered themselves "natives," they considered themselves Han. First, ethnicity has ALWAYS BEEN a human construct, so what's your point? Second, the Manchurians were non-Sino-Tibetans who invaded Ming Dynasty. They forced the Queue Order on the Chinese. While that certainly strengthened the Chinese identity, it's always been there.

[gariadara]

@ForChwo That is completely untrue. Nationalist identities were there before any contact with the West. Anyone from any of the various Chinese kingdoms during the Warring States would harbor strong nationalist identity. The concept of Han was extant since the Han Dynasty, later recognized as an ethnic group when "barbarians" invaded. The concept of Huaxia was extant since the Shang Dynasty. So is the concept of Baixing (the People).

[gariadara]

@ForChwo you're arguing semantics. the term Italian refers to something that belongs to Italy. The term Chinese isn't just a geological term nor is it in any way analogous to "Italian" or "Western." Tang culture isn't Chinese? Then why did they write in a written language called Classical Chinese? And why did the Tang write in Chinese Characters?

[gariadara]

@ForChwo There is no real break in cultural continuity between dynasties, with the exception of the Qing Dynasty and that only went for the clothing. There are political transitions, huge ones from Zhou to Warring States, and from States to Qin. But there is a commonality of language, writing, religion, customs all throughout these dynasties with limited intermarriage with non-Huaxia ethnicities (not as prolific as say the Spanish). Chinese civilization is the least diverse of all ancient civs.

[ForChwo]

@gariadara the japanese did the same during the Tokugawa shogunate and the military rule leading up to WW2, united a people either under a race/ethnicity or a religion or a language is a form of controlling the masses. The japanese forced standard japanese even on "yamato" (pure japanese) who spoke distinct dialects. All of these human constructs are slowly being annihilated by globalization and im glad. Its sad people pay so much attention to things written down by the elite class.