Sri Bhagavan on 17th November 2009 (part 1/6, audio)

Sri Bhagavan on 17th November 2009 via video conference talks to the European course coordination in Verona, Italy.

Transcript of another Skype conference with Sri Bhagavan, 17th November 2009, Forest Row, Sussex, UK (part 1/2):


Q: On one hand there is global warming, economic crisis, industrialization etc and on other hand there is spiritual growth happening towards the run up to the age of enlightenment. How should we prepare ourselves and what changes are we going to see in world?

B: The preparation/conception for the age to enlightenment started in 1989 by many spiritual movements. And 2012 will be the birth of the new age which will grow in 2035. There will be difficulties and disorder during this phase before 2012 which in turn will bring about a greater order. In 2012 a large number of people will change perceptions. The world will slowly move into order. It will be easier for people to excel in their own respective fields, be it spiritual, economical, political or any field for that matter beginning with 2012. And all the spiritual movements are responsible for bringing about this change.


Q: Got major experiences and breakthroughs through the Living in Oneness seminar and also received deekshas in the event which has helped in many ways. If you say that the divine aspect has been removed from the course, then how did we get those experiences?

B: I have been getting reports that all the courses in the west are psychology based. Even the ones in OU are related to the mind and therefore psychological in nature. But we have also introduced divinity in the courses. That makes the courses of Oneness different than the other psychology-based courses. The LIO would have been much more effective and peoples consciousness would have risen even further if the divine aspect was brought into the picture. If the divine is not included it will be like any other course in the world.

Subtle changes have been made where slowly the divine has been cut off, little by little. I don't say they are doing it consciously. Subtly people are being bound. I want to see this with all the people, anything binding must go, think for yourself, be free.

I have been talking to many great minds in the western world (which is more advanced in the field of psychology than India) and they are quite OK with the divine aspect. But I was kept in the dark for many years and was incorrectly informed that the westerners dont want it that way. I was the one who wanted the picture of AmmaBhagavan to be removed.

I have always maintained to give away the knowledge to all the people who will run the courses (LIO and L1 and L2) in their respective cities/countries. I was told that people will not be able to conduct the processes properly and I say, We can always train them properly and give them the skill set.

I was being told by these acharyas that I am perceived to be more Hinduist whereas I have always been open to all the faiths. And I have interacted with many Muslim mullahs, atheist, Hindu priests, people from Vatican, Buddhist monks and have been open to all of their views. And that is why we are also able to conduct courses out of the Bible for Christians, Quran for Muslims, etc. I have always maintained that a human being should be free to choose his own religion/faith and that there should not be any binding. There should not be any successor(s) to AmmaBhagavan and that AmmaBhagavan are not individuals but a phenomenon. Even AmmaBhagavan should fade away from the scene of Oneness and let Oneness dwell in the hearts of people who should take it forward. In my life, perhaps in 2014, we should see the oneness movement dissolved. Otherwise I see this as a danger for it to become a cult and a religion. It is not that I want to impress anyone. I have already got a huge following in the south of India which is enough for me!

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[joshrain1]

how can cancer be transferred? is it possible? can't people misuse it then?

[worldofoneness]

can't be misused since it happens only in agreement with the respective persons involved and is possible only with a pure intent

[joshrain1]

thx for the response. so when the disciple is receptive and innocent, it is said that the master can touch the forehead and transfer energy. (i don't know what that does). but what if the trusting disciple falls in the person with wrong hand? can they be affected? or should we doubt everything and not be trusting. thx for explaining.

[astralgirly]

It is absolutely possible! Do not think of it as cancer, think of it as energy...., is energy transferable? Absolutely!!! There are people (alternative healers) all over the planet doing this. I even know of a woman who eats people's karma. This was many years ago and I don't know if she is still doing it, but I experienced it.

[Faviana21]

Don't worry it is not possible. Every person has Divine free will. Never forget that your are the Master of your Soul, the captain of your destiny and the CEO of your life. NO ONE can created in your life without your permission.

[Faviana21]

You are correct the Golden Age is here. Started years ago. 2012 is shift that is happening in accordance with Universal Divine Time. It has nothing to do with a specific movement. Every lightworker on earth is the cause of this Shift.