One Person, One Vote, One Catch

Here Ken discusses the dangers of "one person, one vote" approaches to democracy. If we consider the fact that people grow through three major stages of development—ego-centric, ethno-centric, and world-centric—and then try to get a sense of where the majority of the people current exists, we find that nearly 70% of the world's population remains at an ethno-centric stage or lower. Democracy is inherently a world-centric system of governance, and "one person, one vote" an ideal way to enact the democratic process. But if the majority of the voters have not themselves achieved a world-centric level of consciousness, it begins to fall apart pretty quickly, with effects as broad as Kansas banning the teaching of evolution to the democratic election of Hamas in Palestine—even the National Socialist German Workers' Party (aka the Nazis) came into power through a plurality election in 1933. Although one does not garner a tremendous amount of popularity criticizing the "one person, one vote" ethic, without a sophisticated understanding of how this system of governance actually plays itself out in the real world, and without finding some way to limit the influence of pre-rational beliefs and mob-rule, democracy can actually become the last best hope for fascism in the 21st century.

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• Ken Wilber
• Politics
• Voting
• Democracy

[asalem86]

mmm, sorry but this vid does NOT take into account AT ALL the REALITY of Democracy happening STRICTLY at the local city/town/ward level. In other words, this vid is SIMPLY an analysis of one-person, one-vote as it exists on either state and/or nation-wide levels. So, if instead, you loook at the institutionalization of Direct Democracy at STRICTLY the Local level then you'll have a Compleetely diff dicourse: im speaking of course about all the General Assembly processes in 3000 + cities i

[PeopleOfShambhala]

Ken Wilber is right. You need a representative of liberal democracy, not just democracy (one man one vote) per se. All around the globe religious and ethnic minorities are being persecuted by the majority. The Western media won't report on it. Do your interior development and check out People of Shambhala: peopleofshambhala[dot]com

[workingclasssociety]

They don't want consensus 

[NewDayDawning2012]

Thank you Ken.

Love, Light and Peace to you.

Namaste.

[MrCuntyballs2U]

First they will take your vote as they decide that you have no right to decide for yourself....... Then they will take your balls when they decide that you have no right to breed........ BTW I defend Ken's right to say whatever he likes.

[LooksAeterna]

@ThePhilosopherKings As to the rest of your comments, they are

1. a case of the logical fallacy of a loaded question (I have nothing against Ken Wilber, I have something against dilettantism, I praise him when praise is due).

2. you repeat the false suggestion something is not simple enough for me or that I might be stupid. A clear case of an attempt to insult instead of sticking to arguments. You will pardon that as a mathematician and logician this doesn't impress me much.

[LooksAeterna]

@ThePhilosopherKings The connection to my original point ? Obviously: the complication seems to serve two purposes: 1. he can evade a question he has no answer for without admitting it and simply saying "I don't know" (would seriously reduce interest in this author). 2. he can use any question to reimprint on the listeners the apparently ubiquitous appearance of the (mostly borrowed !) stage theories to make it seem his books are relevant even though he doesn't have a clue.

[ThePhilosopherKings]

@LooksAeterna

How is it he didn't answer the question and what does any of this have to do with your original point? You just keep moving the goal post.

What is it you have against ken Wilber?

His Ideas are not simple enough for you?

Maybe you can get a copy of that picture book he talks about . :)

[LooksAeterna]

@ThePhilosopherKings

Wilber is sometimes evading questions, and that cannot be defended by saying he is answering "in depth". Else you would have been able to point out to me how he answered 0 - 0:12.

How much did I learn from people mastering their field liek Don Beck ? A lot !

BTW, I also learned a lot from Wilber elsewhere. Why do you get so upset when his megalomania in pontificating in fields he doesn't master (for instance logic is another one) is criticized where it occurs ?

GoldenCow

[LooksAeterna]

@ThePhilosopherKings You are well trained in the same diversion game.

Now where did you again turn up with the word "simply" in my words. I said:

"As opposed to truly knowledgeable people like Don Beck, for instance (see my comments to his interview). They answer short, direct and to the point and with a clear command of their material."

Stop disingeniously putting words in my mouth so that your prejudices have a target.