7th Foundational Falsehood of Creationism

This one deals with the notion that everything must have an intelligently-designed purpose, or it must be random accidents.

Here's the script
http://darwinwasright.homestead.com/7thFFoC.html

Category:

News & Politics

Tags:

• evolution
• creationism
• crevo
• darwin
• intelligent
• design

[ozredneck22]

What a stupid strawman video......."Creationists insist that the one element of nature that God could not control is evolution"....where did AronHaha dredge that little gem from?

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It has never been a matter of what God could or could not do. It is to do with what He SAID He did, just as Eve was tempted with "Did God really say you cannot eat of the fruit?". Doubting His word will be the downfall of man.

[AronRa]

@ozredneck22 I have had thousands of discussions on this topic with creationists, and yes they do commonly insist that God could do anything he wants, but go on to say how 'impossible' they insist evolution is. Your problem is that you've taken the fables of mere fallable humans and mistaken them for the 'word of God'.

[Mikeybetts]

@AronRa

Aron, would you say this is correct when it comes to many evolution-denying theist?

Many thiests deny evolution because it conflicts with genesis.

if there is no genesis, then there is no adam and eve.

if there is no adam and eve there is no origional sin

if there is no original sin, then there is no need for god to be mad

if there is no angry god, then there is no hell.

no hell means no fear

no fear means no control.

would you say that is correct?

[AronRa]

@Mikeybetts I don't agree with that because I don't see where fear is eliminated nor control implied.

[gradsssara]

My father just caught me watching this and told me I was going to hell, but that's ok.

I don't even believe in a hell so he can go fuck himself

[MobiusCoin]

I feel as though the airplane example is misleading. That definitely suggests that there is intent, some sort of intelligence for striving towards an previously imagined goal; flight.

[MobiusCoin]

And that is the Christian philosophical flaw that has so plagued science for the last 2000 years: That nature has intent. That the heart is meant for pumping blood, or the eye is meant for seeing. No it is not meant for any of this stuff, it just does it. The fact that it contributes to its own survival; its continued existence is the only reason it continues to exist and function as it does with the illusion of intent.

[MobiusCoin]

@gradsssara Props brother!

[hybriddefect]

It's divine providence that that red bar keeps getting smaller and smaller.

[infernalone666]

@Mikeybetts

not even that

with no original sin, jesus is pointless

don't care if it 'offends' a few con-men and idiots. things aren't true because enough people THINK it is

[mjn132]

8:11 Hey, why did each ship in The Matrix have one team doing one task. Why not have one person from each ship on each team. This way, if one ship is completely destroyed, you're not screwed. Your plan sucked Morpheus.

[notbobby125]

@AronRa Strange that you use the Matrix with Moriphus saying "this was our fate to be here" to point a person's illogic on fate, even though in a twisted way it was kind of fate. The Machines wanted Neo to be found and made the chosen one to bring about the reboot of the Xion population.

[MrShyguy0]

AronRa, can you tell me what program was modelling evolution around 3:40? I found it to be fascinating.

[nothingmemorable]

The principle Fundamentalist Christian "Creationist" issue isn't that they deny that God could have created by means of evolutionary processes but that - by they're reading of the Bible - He wouldn't have. Their view of Salvation History requires that there be no death - at least nohuman or animal death - prior to Adam's Fall, and that all death, disease, deformity, and predation and paracitism are products of the Fall, and thus natural selection would have had nothing to work with.

[RevArto]

@morrjame8 After the last guy commented I found the rest. Thanks anyways, buddy. I really do appreciate it.