TQ4C #3: Free Will
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@venomx88
You refuse to address the main thing i brought up. instead you want to dwell on a EXTREMELY similar name which one could logically conclude came from the same person. VenomX & Venom FangX HMMM RATHER SIMILAR! and VENOM has NOTHING to do with Christianity. Considering the Heavy metal band named VENOM was SATANIC!
If you want to get into the use of VENOM I can but that is far from what I was even getting at.
Which is suspect you do this shit to avoid the subject!
PastorIblis 7 months ago
@PastorIblis I know what a "fag" is. And you've never responded to a single thing I've said, you just keep reasserting the same points.
I'm also NOT VenomFangX under a different name. Had you checked out my channel links before commenting, you would have known that. But, if you can't be bothered to ARGUE that KNOWING free will decisions ahead of time removes freedom of choice, then I wouldn't expect you to check out who were talking to before making wild assumptions.
Please argue something.
venomx88 7 months ago
@venomx88
LMAO
Nice way to take a Missing the N and turning into something that was Not even part of the response.
If you want to know the Truth a Fag is a Bundle of Sticks Or a Cigarette and doesn't apply to sexuality. However that may be to intellectual for you!
As for the ALL KNOWING Vs Freewill idea how does that NOT come up?
If something is ALL KNOWING then that would be it must KNOW ALL! Which means knowing EVERY SINGLE choice Every single person that ever existed would make!
PastorIblis 7 months ago
@PastorIblis That was a fun and informative reply.
You haven't argued that ALL KNOWING removes free will, you've only asserted it. Please argue it.
And, I'm married to a wonderful woman and have two kids. So I'm not a fag. However, my gay friends probably wouldn't appreciate knowing that a slang term for their sexuality is still being thrown around as a pejorative. Grow up.
venomx88 7 months ago
@venomx88
You are simply Wrong.
If something is ALL KNOWING then no matter if you are given choice A - Z ans 0 - 1,000,000,000,000,000,000 The ALL KNOWING thing would Know EXACTLY which one you would pick because and this is the hard part for you it is ALL KNOWING!
ALL KNOWING means KNOWING ALL!
Not knowing only the parts VENOM FAG Likes!
There is either an ALL KNOWING God and No Freewill or Freewill and NO ALL KNOWING GOD!
Which a God that doesn't know All is not a God!
So there is NO GOD!
PastorIblis 7 months ago
@PastorIblis Knowing that someone S will choose to perform action A in circumstance B, even knowing it with 100% certainty, doesn't remove S's OPTION to perform action X or action Y or action Z.
For free will to disappear, one would have to be FORCED to perform action A by the omnipotent entity. Just knowing the action will occur isn't tantamount to removing free will.
Why doesn't anyone get this?
venomx88 7 months ago
@venomx88
What you fail to see is if your God is Omnipotent as you Christian's claim then there is Nothing that we could choose that this God wouldn't know we would choose. So the idea of Freewill is simply an Illusion not a real thing.
Freewill and an Omnipotent God are contradictions of terms and hence can not be!
One of these must go.
When you factor in reality and what we can prove a Personal (Theistic) God fails because of a lack of Evidence so There is No God!
PastorIblis 7 months ago
@arithine Do I have the freedom of choice to cheat on my wife? YES OR NO ONLY, no qualifiers. I just want to know if I am free to cheat on my wife.
venomx88 11 months ago
How is it "free will" if you are expected to do/ believe things by the letter, and if you don't you burn in hell forever. It's not free if you get an infinite punishment for doing something different. It's like saying your country has freedom of press, but if anyone prints a story the country doesn't believe in they get the death sentence. "Well they had the free will to choose to die by printing the story"
arithine 11 months ago
thank God someone made a video response to that idiot. great job but u have to get a little bit more on the side of laymans term your video is too technical for some.
wastedwater75 1 year ago