Life Feeds on Life, Evil Feeds on Ignorance

Tooltime9901 has presented some facile responses to arguments for moral vegetarianism. I attempt to point out why the arguments he proposes are simply excuses, ways of avoiding the problem rather than honestly dealing with it.

Peter's video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaouZtoAQa8&

Category:

Education

Tags:

• tooltime9901
• animal ethics
• vegetarianism
• veganism
• factory farming
• Peter Singer
• intellectual honesty

[DiscoveringReligion]

I 100% agree with everything you've said; however, I love meat. I guess there is no away around the issue, eating meat appears to be immoral because it causes needless suffering. But what would be your response if we could ensure the lives of animals were enjoyable until such time as they are eaten, and that their deaths would be as painless as possible? Do you think we must completely stop eating meat or are some animals okay to eat, such as fish, shrimp, etc? Where is that line?

[SisyphusRedeemed]

@DiscoveringReligion I think everyone's got to answer that for themselves, but they should do that only once being informed. I don't know if shrimp can suffer or not, but when you look at the environmental damage that shrimping does, there are other good reasons not to eat shrimp.

[SisyphusRedeemed]

@DiscoveringReligion As for 'cruelty free farming', I don't think there is such a thing, but there are some farms that are far better than others. But killing a human at a fraction of their natural life, even if that life is a happy one, is still a horribly moral evil. Why should that be any different for a non-human animal?

[trakkaton]

Oh come on, you don't really take "disgustipated" seriously, do you? Maynard as a preacher, thank you Jesus, "Let the rabbits wear glasses" - it has written SARCASM all over it. Maybe fooltime is dumb enough to make a mantra out of a parody, but you seem to be much brighter.

[DarkArabesque]

Wow, all these people posting comments about how they love tasty meat. Absolutely no self-discipline or self-control, even when you know it's destructive and painful for animals. At least eat fish but try not to eat mammals, who are more like us.

[BionTimeWorks]

2:28

That was pretty funny.

[schwei56]

Re carrots: What they don’t have is sensation/perception. Show me where the nerve tissue is in a carrot, and . . .

[schwei56]

Actually I’d submit that, more often than not, life feeds on death. Ask any fly. Now go eat an apple as it’s hanging from a tree. Not easy, is it?

[LetsTalkSexTalk]

@Crunchy68 Many religious groups call atheism its own religion, which is to suggest that it is unifying as a belief system. I don't believe that they are correct, but I do believe that this video illustrates that it is not a unifying belief system.

[LetsTalkSexTalk]

@MisterScrutinizer The first part of my comment was a joke based around the fact that both of the youtubers are recognized as part of an atheist youtube community of sorts. The video of course didn't have an atheist topic, but both users are recognized as such.