@manhunter86 Actually, the middle-class lifestyle is IN SPITE of unions. Unions price labor too high, which raises prices, which is hardest on the poor and middle-class. Unions are reviled by most americans (68% of Americans dislike unions). Unions have forced companies to move overseas. Except in righ-to-work states, where BMW,VW, Audi, Toyota, etc all have NON-union manufacturing. PWNED.
@taylorzr (Sigh) My arguments are strong, stronger than the nonsense you write. A "free" market has no place for externalaties like pollution:the biosphere doesn't have a bunch of lawyers and lobbyists for its waterways and lands. Organizations like the Sierra Club fight for them and use govt. to protect them. In the same way, the bottom 80-90% of the populace get exploited in an envirnoment without strong workplace protections. Ever hear of the Third World? Yeesh!
@taylorzr Eh? Technology has NOTHING to do with it. The protections were fought for by unions and put into law by the government. What you wrote makes no sense.
@svvmichael1 Unions are what provided the American middle class lifestyle. It didn't just come about through free-market mechanisms. Those manufacturing jobs because most manufacturers are international corporations:in a global view, it makes sense for them to exploit one market (Third World) to produce for another market's consumption. Doesn't make it better for 90% of us though. Owned.
@SorryForYourBoss You clearly have NO idea what you're talking about. We have homeless kids here, and our health care is NOT far superior to everywhere else if you can't get it or go broke using it.
@SorryForYourBoss most of my US friends would not agree with you ... but perhaps that is because they have not been overwhelmed by narcissism and actually do care about stuff other than their own wallet.... you have yet to explain why poor ppl should give their children up for adoption I would like to hear it as your rote learned 'everyone else is a commie' stuff is both boring & inaccurate, I will not be posting again since you only want to blow your own trumpet, which is probably made in China
@UbercakeNL you really don't know how the US works at all. for one, healthcare is not a RIGHT. if it were, nobody would ever have to pay for it and doctors would be asked to go to school for 10 years so they can earn nothing. secondly, that's exactly my point. government has stepped in and skyrocketed prices. if the government would get out of the private industry, prices would fall and everyone would be able to afford it. Again, your country isn't free so you don't understand this principal.
@UbercakeNL you do realize that everytime you use a service provided by the government, you're using other people's money right? government has nothing. it takes from others. in your country, high taxes are forced upon the more wealthy and given to others. that is the opposite of freedom. and yes, when people sneak into the country we don't feel the need to provide them with healhtcare that OTHER people pay for. again, you can't understand this concept because you live in a nanny state.
Naomi Klein seems like a talking sound board.
RJordan0220 4 hours ago
@svvmichael1 Percentage of Americans that dislike union was useless, but overall you are correct. DING DING DING, we have a winner. Knockout.
thegoodgeneral 22 hours ago
@manhunter86 Actually, the middle-class lifestyle is IN SPITE of unions. Unions price labor too high, which raises prices, which is hardest on the poor and middle-class. Unions are reviled by most americans (68% of Americans dislike unions). Unions have forced companies to move overseas. Except in righ-to-work states, where BMW,VW, Audi, Toyota, etc all have NON-union manufacturing. PWNED.
svvmichael1 1 day ago
@taylorzr (Sigh) My arguments are strong, stronger than the nonsense you write. A "free" market has no place for externalaties like pollution:the biosphere doesn't have a bunch of lawyers and lobbyists for its waterways and lands. Organizations like the Sierra Club fight for them and use govt. to protect them. In the same way, the bottom 80-90% of the populace get exploited in an envirnoment without strong workplace protections. Ever hear of the Third World? Yeesh!
manhunter86 1 day ago
@taylorzr Eh? Technology has NOTHING to do with it. The protections were fought for by unions and put into law by the government. What you wrote makes no sense.
manhunter86 1 day ago
@svvmichael1 Unions are what provided the American middle class lifestyle. It didn't just come about through free-market mechanisms. Those manufacturing jobs because most manufacturers are international corporations:in a global view, it makes sense for them to exploit one market (Third World) to produce for another market's consumption. Doesn't make it better for 90% of us though. Owned.
manhunter86 1 day ago
@SorryForYourBoss You clearly have NO idea what you're talking about. We have homeless kids here, and our health care is NOT far superior to everywhere else if you can't get it or go broke using it.
manhunter86 1 day ago
@SorryForYourBoss most of my US friends would not agree with you ... but perhaps that is because they have not been overwhelmed by narcissism and actually do care about stuff other than their own wallet.... you have yet to explain why poor ppl should give their children up for adoption I would like to hear it as your rote learned 'everyone else is a commie' stuff is both boring & inaccurate, I will not be posting again since you only want to blow your own trumpet, which is probably made in China
UbercakeNL 1 day ago
@UbercakeNL you really don't know how the US works at all. for one, healthcare is not a RIGHT. if it were, nobody would ever have to pay for it and doctors would be asked to go to school for 10 years so they can earn nothing. secondly, that's exactly my point. government has stepped in and skyrocketed prices. if the government would get out of the private industry, prices would fall and everyone would be able to afford it. Again, your country isn't free so you don't understand this principal.
SorryForYourBoss 1 day ago
@UbercakeNL you do realize that everytime you use a service provided by the government, you're using other people's money right? government has nothing. it takes from others. in your country, high taxes are forced upon the more wealthy and given to others. that is the opposite of freedom. and yes, when people sneak into the country we don't feel the need to provide them with healhtcare that OTHER people pay for. again, you can't understand this concept because you live in a nanny state.
SorryForYourBoss 1 day ago