Ernest Hemingway: A Moveable Feast

Patrick and Sean Hemingway discuss examining the original manuscripts to create the restored edition of A Moveable Feast.

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[stevevandien]

@stevevandien plus "The Snows of Kilimanjaro," "Short (etc.) Life of Francis MacComber," "Up in Michigan," "A Clean, Well-lighted Place," "Soldiers Home," "My Old Man" -- not to mention "For Whom the Bell Tolls," which for me is EH's best full-length novel:) -- BEST ALWAYS, Steve

[stevevandien]

@darthvadorthestrong Sorry, bro, am overwhelmed while fighting what apparently is the flu -- I will reread AMF and Hem bios and then get back to you re. the points we've disputed -- but DAMN! We both love Hemingway, and once we dropped personal attacks (my apologies again), we had a hell of a discussion abut him, didn't we? I mean, damn, the cat could flat-out WRITE! Have been rereading EH's short stories, esp. "The Undefeated," "Big Two-Hearted River," etc. -- more anon --

[darthvadorthestrong]

@stevevandien and places and people that I love and they keep life worth living. I can only assume that you have such things in your life or you would have given up long ago. There is peppered through out his writing his belief on how to live and how to get the most out of it by how you value things...and I think he was as close as any man has ever come to understanding how one can get the most out of living.

[darthvadorthestrong]

@stevevandien very well. Hem writes nothing that is hurtful to fitz and if anything he speaks highly and with great affection for the man. Now as for Hem not having a career without these people is nonsense...the man would have kept at it because he was a man of conviction and he valued (keyword) writing. It gave him purpose you see? No day was wasted that was spent writing and I think thats how he was able to live...without anything to live for whats the reason. I have books and music...

[darthvadorthestrong]

@stevevandien Hemingway helped Stein more than she helped him because all she wanted was to be published and thought ford at the trans atlantic he did just that. Ford was himself an old wounded dog who was probably more willing to bite than bark, but never the less he did help Hem, but that doesn't mean he had to like him. Scott and Perkins is very interesting, I'm reading Scotts letters and many of them are to Perkins. I don't know how Hem met Perkins but if you say it was through Scott than...

[stevevandien]

@stevevandien So how did EH repay them? By telling nasty stories about them in "A Moveable Feast." But you make a terrific point about EH being "like an old wounded dog" while writing "AMF." Sad, but true. I didn't take EH's mental and emotional deterioration into account when ripping him for "AMF." I must concede the point. More tomorrow -- rest well, bro:) --

[darthvadorthestrong]

@stevevandien the man was cruel to waiters and I have no tolerance for that....Hemingway portrayed him as he was I believe and you know what you can't be friends or like everyone so why try.

[darthvadorthestrong]

@stevevandien steve you seem like a good man and in no way have you insulted me you have been civil and true to your first comment that I disagreed with...but lets dog all that bull and actually get something out that means something....I stay true to my opinion that hemingway only glorified Scott and G. S. He did infact brutally "cut" Ford and Ford might have deserved it and he may have not, but thats how Hemingway felt at the time. Personally I would have been the same way toward Ford.

[stevevandien]

@darthvadorthestrong Close, but not quite. My point is, look, these people HELPED Hemingway establish his career. Stein helped him develop his style (how MUCH she helped him is debatable, but she certainly DID help Hemingway). Fitzgerald sang EH's praises to Max Perkins, who became Hemingway's editor. More than once, Ford relied on EH to edit the transatlantic review and praised him for doing so. Indeed, one could argue that without such help, EH wouldn't have had a career -- more anon -

[stevevandien]

@stevevandien rather than dismiss them out of hand. I apologize again for insulting you, and wish you all the best -- Steve