Re: Noam Chomsky on Abortion

See the whole documentary from which this clip was taken. It's titled "Lake of Fire". Chomsky appears in it two or three additional times.

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[Imperitor2]

while I do like and respect this guy I have to say that I find it very evident that abortion is wrong no matter what the circumstances. I firmly believe in the principle of Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness and abortion is a clear violation of a child's right to live. The argument that everyone has the right to chose is a valid argument, for instance I can choose to walk into a public place and shoot a bunch of people I have the right to make that choice but that doesn't make it right.

[yrrmom]

@Imperitor2: But if you believe in the principle of Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness, don't you also believe that not letting a woman who wants to have an abortion is a clear violation of the woman's right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness?

[ZakBrownrigg123]

@yrrmom

No because

A) Her right to Life is being violated (pregnancy doesnt kill, ususually)

B) Liberty is constrained to your own sphere: your free to wave your arms around but that ends as soon as you touch someone else. In this case, constrained so as not to violate the childs freedom.

c) pursuit of happiness can be pursued while your pregnant, or after. Pregnancy is not a decease. Government and charity should be there to provide support.

[yrrmom]

@ZakBrownrigg123 A) Right: nonfatal pregnancy doesnt violate a right to life. B) Your conception of 'right to liberty' is overly simplistic (nevermind your presumption that abortion violates that of a "child"). It presumes every person has the right equally in any circumstances. But counterexamples leap to mind. C) My guess is youre a guy &/or someone who hasnt bothered to think about what it's like to be pregnant or its physical & emotional effects, nevermind submitting to such things unwilling

[ZakBrownrigg123]

@yrrmom

The concept of an unborn child is a real one. When you see a pregnant woman get kicked in the stomach whats your reaction? I hope she doesnt bruise? Or OMG I hope the child is ok. There is also a legal entity there: if the physician makes a mistake in child delivery, he can get sued and cant just pass the feotus off as a blob.

The recent developments in embrylogy have to most unbiased analysts confirmed the reality of the unborn child concept.

[yrrmom]

@ZakBrownrigg123 I don't deny the legal implications. But it's well-known how often the law fails to match up with morality. After all, slavery was once legal; that doesn't tell us anything about what the morality of slavery ever was.

In any case, you may call the fetus (or even an embryo or zygote) a "child" if you wish. Some people do. But the fact that some people do has no moral implications. No more than if a lot people wished to call a sperm or egg-cell a "child". Or an acorn an "oak".

[martintod2006]

rich white people screaming blue murder because poor white women make decisions based on thier own, private reasons. It is no-ones business what anyone else does to thier body. If a woman feels she cannot carr her pregnancy to term that is her right. These pro abortionists are misogynists pure and simple. They hate women, and want to control thier every move, thought and being.

[HardHouseMusic4Me]

Could you imagine if all the aborted babies of the past were not aborted? We would have struggling mothers, poor and orphaned children, an immensely growing population, and strife in general. The need of a fetus to live is not outweighed by these problems. Furthermore, do you think the state would take care of these single mothers? We barely have a large enough budget for our education system. Who is going to take care of these kids?

[achammer]

when they do abortions its like a tiny fetus hardly considered a baby or human in my eyes

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@Imperitor2

Also, I'd be curious to know who exactly has granted you the right to go on murderous rampages? Nobody has the right to go into a public place and massacre a bunch of people...where did you get that idea?

And that is manifestly NOT the same as aborting a fetus. The two are sooo far from equivalent it's laughable.

That isn't what the "right to choice" means. What it means is that people (men and women both) have the right to control what happens to their own bodies.

[LaOriental1]

martintod2006

I'm not sure what you mean. You are saying that "if a woman feels she cannot carry her pregnancy to term that is her right" but then you say "pro abortionists are mysogynists" . Are you sure that is what you meant?