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@blabla9able it's way cheaper to use herbs and veges and make things from scratch.
Loaf of fresh bread costs me 10c to make by hand and is less effort than going to the supermarket.
Herbs, spring onions, tomatoes and plenty others are free - since they're easy to grow. I don't even have a garden and I crop well with buckets.
I make stock with bones, reduce it down and freeze it in portions.
The bones are free, since I buy a whole chook and break it down.
Not hard at all.
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@blabla9able If you stop buying instant and packaged foods, you'll notice there isnt any msg in them at all.
I expect you buy stock powder, 2 minute noodles, gravy mix and premade pasta sauces etc.
Make it from scratch and you wont see any msg.
Stock powder doesnt taste a thing like real stock does- and the rest is just convenience foods. Laziness is the only thing that ups the msg level in your diet.
I dont care about msg content..
But I find it hard to think it's hard to avoid.
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Chicken McNuggets are good?
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@staratsx I don't think he was implying that its particularly harmful all of a sudden, just that instead of complaining on the internet you can simply avoid it. I agree with him that if you think that something is bad, you're free to not consume it.
Maybe if the people throwing around the MSG is deadly thing weren't the same type of woomeisters who think vaccines are evil, we'd take them more seriously.
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@Psydecar unreal...you're still at it. I remember a couple months ago you were saying MSG was harmless...now you are saying "hey, if you don't like it...don't buy it." I would rebut this but blabla9able has said all that needs to be said. If the glutamate salt is less than 99% pure, they are justified in calling it "yeast extract" or a host of other names. Also, I don't think you understand the difference between acute and chronic toxins, or at least the mechanisms behind such chronic toxins
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alot of chinese restaurants here in nyc says no msg on the menu but does have it
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Yup. Most countries in Europe have MSG. Same here in Lithuania.
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They're not all the same. They contain glutamate (for the "umami" flavor) and have the same purpose, but they're not exactly MSG. Vegemite is "yeast extract", for example. Though if you're afraid of MSG, you'd logically want to avoid all of those.
It's easy to avoid. Don't like MSG? Don't eat food with MSG. Too lazy to read the ingredients? Buy unprocessed food. There's plenty around no matter where you're from. I don't see what's so difficult about it. Nobody is forcing it on you.
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@Psydecar No its already almost impossible to avoid. Doesn't it mean anything to you that the food companies now try to avoid having to put MSG or "monosodiumglutamate" or E621 in the ingredients list, and instead call it yeast, yeast extract, stock, hydrolysed protein, or even FLAVOUR? Think about that, why do they do that?



Europe still has MSG. It's just not allowed in certain food products like milk and juices.
Finland at least, definitely has MSG products (according to a friend who lives there), and German scientists have claimed that MSG in levels present in food is harmless (similar claims have been made by American and Chinese scientists). The only real concerns are with infants. It's definitely less risky than foods with high sugar content (like sodas) or trans-fats (greasy fast food burgers) anyway.
SuperWoodgod 2 months ago 7
In the 2004 version of his book On Food and Cooking, food enthusiast and author Harold McGee states that "[after many studies], toxicologists have concluded that MSG is a harmless ingredient for most people, even in large amounts."[32]
VxTran 2 months ago 4