Phantom Foul 3

The third foul, from game six, that gave the Heat the championship.

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Sports

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• sports
• dallas
• mavericks

[Cincodekyle]

The 2006 NBA finals turned me into the bitter sports fan I am today. I had just turned 18 and the consequences were never the same. Fuck David Stern. Fuck him in the dick. The same dick that Dwayne Wade has his lips wrapped around ever so tenderly.

[nickrock23]

@Truegenius23 How is it possible? Watch the game again! Wade played 50 minutes, and Avery used Hack-a-Shaq with 9 minutes left in the 3rd quarter, 5 min left in the 4th, AND in OT . That resulted in at 10 FT's the heat shouldn't have had in the 3rd qtr alone. The Mavs committed 38 fouls, I think the Heat committed 27 and 12 Mavs fouls were intentional. So that means if they never hacked shaq, Mavs actually got more calls. Just watch the game you will see how many fouls were intentional!!!

[shadyparadox]

@nickrock23 The discrepancy comes from blocked shots. These are certainly missed shots, but the entries do not contain the word "miss". There were 10 blocks in the Lakers/Suns game, and Lebron blocked one of Terry's shots at the end of the first quarter.

[nickrock23]

@shadyparadox By the way, the game you gave me a link for, the play-by-play misses a missed FG by Jason Terry which resulted in 2 of his free throws. Let me know if you and Simmons have any more crazy theories. Wade and LBJ weren't drawing any fouls in this series so it's a bad example and I still found one.

[nickrock23]

@shadyparadox I don't know why you and Simmons don't understand basic rules. Go to any game play by play. Let's take the March 22nd, 2011 Lakers-Suns 3OT game. Count how many FT's were missed. There were 7 total. The play by play lists all 7. Now look at shots missed. The play by play lists 112 missed shots, however both teams missed 122 combined. I can look at that play by play and know exactly where those missed shots are not listed, right before a free throw attempt. great game by the way.

[shadyparadox]

@nickrock23 No, he's disputing whether or not the foul was a shooting foul, i.e. whether the fouled player should be awarded free throws.

Here's an example of a play-by-play: tinyurl(.)com/3uej2x9

This page lists every play, including missed shots and shooting fouls, that occurred throughout the game. Notice whenever a shooting foul occurs, no missed shot is charged. Your challenge is to find one example, in this game or any other, where a missed shot and a shooting foul are listed together.

[nickrock23]

@shadyparadox i don't know how to show you. just watch a game and keep track, it happens a couple of times during every game. i've heard mike turico talk about it how sometimes he disagrees when a FGA is charged or not charged. either way it wouldn't have effected anyone's FG% much in this series.

[shadyparadox]

@nickrock23 I removed my original comment and replaced it with one that has the word "missed".

What I'm saying is, find one example anywhere in an actual play-by-play of an NBA game in which a missed FGA and a shooting foul were charged at the same time. Tell me which game, when the foul was committed, who committed the foul, and who was charged with the missed FGA.

[nickrock23]

say Wade was grabbed or intentionally fouled when there's a foul to give at end of the qtr... then he heaves up a behind the back shot that misses the whole backboard.. he won't be charged for a FGA, unless it goes of course.

[nickrock23]

@shadyparadox can't find ur last comment, but you wanted 1 example from a play-by-play of a shooting foul and a FGA occurring at the same time. 1 example would be if the shot went in.. 2nd example would be if shooter gets fouled on the follow through and the ball bounces off the rim. in that case the shooter is charged with a FGA. FIBA has the same rules. it's up to the scorekeeper if he wants to charge him. sometimes they charge players with a last second shot from past midcourt, sometimes not