The Truth exposed about China's false claims

China loves to claim possession of Tibet because of the Yuan, Ming & Qing Dynasties. The maps in the video clearly show China's reach during each dynasty.

The 2 Dynasties that over took Tibet are the Yuan and the Qing Dynasty. Below will be additional links to other sites showing these dynasties.

But first lets deal with the Tang Dynasty. The Tang Dynasty ran from 618 - 906 AD. China never gained more then a foothold in Tibet along the borders as shown in the map in video. On the other hand in 763 Tibet not only sacked the Tang capital of Hangman for a short period and parts of Tang areas for about 60 years. the quote below is in the Military And Foreign Policy first section 3rd paragraph down. Below the quote are 2 links first is to the treaty translated into English and second is to the stone pillar mentioned at the end of the quote.

http://www.museumstuff.com/learn/topics/Tang_Dynasty::sub::History

"There was a long string of conflicts with Tibet over territories in the Tarim Basin between 670-692 and in 763 the Tibetans even captured the capital of China, Chang'an, for fifteen days during the An Shi Rebellion. In fact, it was during this rebellion that the Tang withdrew its western garrisons stationed in what is now Gansu and Qinghai, which the Tibetans then occupied along with the territory of what is now Xinjiang. Hostilities between the Tang and Tibet continued until they signed a formal peace treaty in 821. The terms of this treaty, including the fixed borders between the two countries, are recorded in a bilingual inscription on a stone pillar outside the Jokhang temple in Lhasa."

http://www.tibetjustice.org/materials/treaties/treaties1.html

"Both Tibet and China shall keep the country and frontiers of which they are now in possession. The whole region to the east of that being the country of Great Tibet, from either side of that frontier there shall be no warfare, no hostile invasions, and no seizure of territory."

http://tibet.prm.ox.ac.uk/photo_2001.59.2.71.1.html

The Dynasty that the Chinese first claim gives them possession of Tibet is the Yuan Dynasty. Well lets see here is a Chinese tourist site with a map of this era.

http://www.chinatouristmaps.com/china-maps/ancient-china-map/yuan-dynasty-map...

note the Chinese site not me clearly states that the Yuan Dynasty was ruled by Mongols. So how can the Chinese claim possession of Tibet when they in fact were not even in control of China?

Chinese also love to try and claim the Ming Dynasty gave them possession of Tibet. The maps clearly show otherwise plus if they gained possession in the Yuan Dynasty, why the need to say the same thing in the Ming and following Qing dynasties? Did they not already have possession? Obviously not.

http://www.travelchinaguide.com/intro/history/qing.htm

"Meanwhile, the Qing court resumed the 'Sheng' administrative system that originated in the Yuan Dynasty (1271 - 1368). Especially, in the frontiers like Tibet, Xinjiang, Mongol and Taiwan Island, the Qing court set out to enhance the power of the imperial ruling."

As previously explained in the Yuan section China was not even in control of the Qing period it was controlled under the Manchurian people

http://www.warriortours.com/intro/history/qing/

"As the last feudal dynasty in Chinese history drew to a close, the Qing Dynasty was established by the Manchu People (Nuzhen People). It lasted 268 years, having altogether 11 emperors in addition to the ruling Emperor Taizong Huang Taiji in Shenyang."

So once again China had no control over itself so it has no claim to Tibet in the Qing Dynasty either. Since when does a subject have the power to claim something in the possession of the master?

Following the fall of the Qing Dynasty Mongolia and Tibet both declared their independence again and signed a mutual treaty recognizing each other as independent and allies

http://www.tibetjustice.org/materials/treaties/treaties14.html

Articles 1 & 2

No person would think that the USA had a claim to take possession of Canada because both were once under England's control or to lay claim to the whole of Mexico, Central America and South America because all these were in whole or in part under Spanish control. Claims like this would be considered ridiculous and without merit. Well China's claim on Tibet because of 2 periods of time when China itself was an occupied country are just as ridiculous.

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[DragonOfQin]

How can the Chinese claim rule over Tibet? 1) Mongolians in China are Chinese. 2) Manchurians in China are Chinese. So Chinese people have the RIGHT TO RULE OVER TIBET! Let us not forget that the Manchus have heavily assimilated into Chinese culture an most of them call themselves "Han".

[scottish785]

@DragonOfQin And I suppose Martians are also Chinese so you have the right to rule over Mars right. More CCP garage trying to defend their crimes against humanity! No shoo CCP TROLL!!!! Go as Uncle Hu for your 50 cents!

[hahaha01357]

Seeing as all Manchurians are Chinese (and they don't claim to be otherwise), I don't see why it couldn't be claimed that the Qing Dynasty is a Chinese dynasty. It's not a "Han" dynasty, but definitely a "Chinese" dynasty. Note: This argument does not apply to the Yuan Dynasty since half of Mongolia is not within Chinese borders. Also, love the instant assumption that anyone arguing in favor of China is a 50 center. Keep fighting the good fight!

[scottish785]

@hahaha01357 and what makes you think you can speak on behalf of Manchurians as I have spoken to a good number who would quite disagree with you!!

[ChineseHOME1]

Each dynasty of Chinese painting maps are very small! This is a Yankee conspiracy (trying to say that China is the aggressor, to incite other people to split China, the Yankees completely forget that he was European colonial invaders!)! Totally inconsistent with the records of ancient Chinese history book! True true Chinese historical maps can be seen in Japan, the Japanese characters of Chinese history are familiar with research in the world!

[scottish785]

@ChineseHOME1 Oh really? Dumbo? Those came off a Chinese controlled History site ages ago. So is quite funny you are calling a Chinese history group liars of their own history!!

[Bodrangzenitaly]

@douboymk2 yeah,Doub-Dumb is giving us lots of good stuff;his made-in-china brain has got some issues (like most of the made in china things! Ugh,yes,remember Boycott Made in China.btw lol)."The Beijing Municipality and BOCOG have violated the housing rights of over 1.25 million residents" and you call eyesore a feature of Beijing that dates back to thousans of years ago! Empty useless brain!

[Polovene]

@scottish785 thank you for uploading this

[scottish785]

@ComradeMing Typical of 50 cent cowards like yourself always BLAH BLAH BLAH No ones buying your lies any more!

[whytedog]

@921peterg

Yes, I know your kind you amounted to next to nothing back in the West so you came to China and now you are something so you became a white monkey of the Chinese or their pet laowei. In short you threw your lot in with the Chinese as they made you feel like somebody as opposed to the nobody you were back home. That is if you are really British at all and not some member of the Chinese 50 cent internet army practising the all too Chinese philosophy of reality through assertion.

[scottish785]

@stirrednotshaken7 They do get paid. Do a youtube search for the below video is on youtube and discusses this fact that CCP puppets get paid to post their rubbish

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