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From our series "Battle to Discredit the Bible" this clip answers the question: What should students do with Bart Ehrman's book?

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  • what to do with ehrman's book? if i had to spend time and effort with every heretical piece of nonsense that came out i would have nothing else to do but read this stuff.

    I would ignore it.

    this is only "brittle fundamentaliism" if it is not genuine conviction. I can safely ignore ehrman , and propose to do, chiefly as every other controversial lbook i have looked at has been weighed and found wanting, and why should i expect this one to be different?

  • How more real can I be? The argument here is the Torah of Moses, the Gospel of Jesus and the Quran. Except for the most ignorant every textual critic of the old and the new Testament testify that they are the works of anonymous writers; they are neither the words of God nor of His prophets except for a few quotations here and there. To top up that they are not the writings of the people who claim to have written them. Let's be real, can you please addressed this issue.

  • @mfaume46 Preserved as in the copies of the Quran after Uthman had the first "burn the Quran" day by burning the original quranic manuscripts and getting rid of the evidence so that people would not have different recitations and start fighting over it. How can anyone think that a murderous pedophile who tried commiting suicide repeated times by throwing himself off a mountain and lied to his wife so she would leave the house and he could have sex with her female slave is a prophet? Get real

  • Where is the Gospel of Jesus Christ? And the Torah of Moses? All that the

    Christians have now is the new Testament and the old Testament, neither of which is

    the Gospel of Jesus nor the Torah of Moses. Yet you have the time to waste debating

    on books that were written by anonymous writers who have been proven to be forgers.

    If you are honest and truthful in your quest for the inerrant word of God as

    revealed to Jesus and Moses it is preserved in the final Testament the Holy Quran.

  • What Wallace and the new liberals don't understand is that the fundamental problem is not Ehrman's conclusions, but his questions themselves. That they legitimize his questions reveals that they are skeptics in Christian garb and that they have the same starting points: Human rationale and modern empirical verification. Where Wallace went wrong so many years ago is when he allowed modern epistemology to dictate the knowledge which can only come from the faith once delivered through the Son.

  • @MsGingergingercat

    I do presuppose that your worldview is inconsistent and self-contradictory. Great, Ehrman was a Bible-believing fundamentalist "Christian." So what? I don't have to sit in judgement over Mr. Ehrman. That's not my place. My place is to answer any objections people might have based on Ehrman's studies. Ehrman's heart is not the issue; his methods and presuppositions are the problem. He's a nice guy and a great scholar, but I wouldn't trust his views on reality.

  • @Dejan2116; Well, the problem here as I see it is that you presuppose that I'm a dumb fuck who does not understand the word 'presupposition'. Erhman plainly states that he began his journey as a bible-believing Xtian; for you to judge his heart otherwise is to place yourself in the Great White Throne of Judgement of which, as I understand it, only Xhrist is to sit, no? You're attempting to weigh Erhman's heart, wherein you fail abysmally, no?

  • @MsGingergingercat

    I wrote that a year ago, but I stand by what I said. The problem here is you don't know what a presupposition is. A presupposition is a prior idea you hold to subconsciously that guides your interpretation of everything you suppose to be true-- hence a "Pre"- "supposition." Hence, Ehrman does NOT start with the presupposition that the NT is true, otherwise he wouldn't be arguing against its truthfulness. The accounts can differ and still be true in my presuppositions. 

  • Spam Fail in 30 seconds: "I think you should read Ehrmans' book" and then he goes and immediately encourages viewers to buy *his own book* to compare the two. Ehrman is a NYT bestseller -- and this bozo I've never heard of before. Buy me! Buy me!

  • @Dejan2116; Wow, complete FAIL here - you've not read Ehrman, have you? His *presupposition* is the exact opposite of your statement: i.e. he starts with *the Bible is absolutely true*, but then questions the fact as to why do the accounts differ? Once you understand that, the whole thread of the NT falls apart like a snowball in the summer sunlight.

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