@B0018590 "Allah the Almighty has said: Whosoever shows enmity to a friend of Mine, I shall be at war with him. My servant does not draw near to ME with anything more loved by Me than the religious duties I have imposed upon him, and My servant continues to draw near to ME with supererogatory works so that I shall love him. When I love him I AM HIS HEARING with which hears, HIS SEEING with which he sees, HIS HAND with which he strikes, and HIS FOOT with which he walks." Explain this hadith pls!
@ThePersecution Who you are fooling by digressing the real issue by bringing in Hatim Tai and again your saviour word "metaphorical". Your "second coming" thing is nothing but reincarnation packed in a new bottle. And reincarnation does not have any place in Islam. The way you have been using "metaphorical", your next step seem to be proving your listless Prophet Mirza as the God (God forbid), "metaphorically". And I pity your community as they will believe that too.
@B0018590 Lets explain our position regarding "second coming", for the benefit of those who might get duped by your lies about our beliefs. Our belief is that anyone who dies never comes back. So somebody coming back in "reincarnated" form has got nothing to do with our beliefs. If you call somebody a "Hatim Tai" for his generosity, does that mean you believe in the reincarnation of Hatim Tai in the body of the person who you call a Hatim Tai? It is metpahorical way of speech. Stop lying now!
@B0018590 Wow, so Jesus will come for "giving" shahada to Christians? Why only Jesu then? What about other religious followers who also rejected Holy Prophet and indulged in all sorts of Shirk? You make the discussion more and more interesting as you come up with a new comment. Also what is the need of that 2000 years or so old prophet who is residing somewhere in the heaven to "give" shahada to Christians. Has Holy Prophet's prophethood failed in its mission to bring them to Islam too? God!
@ThePersecution Jesus (pbuh) is not any Tom, Dick & Harry. He is not a new identity coming after the Prophet as allegedly "second coming" (reincarnation). He will come as Jesus himself for giving Shahada to Christians about what they have been doing wrong. Your concept is deceptive and may find believers in those who believe in re-incarnations. You have many agencies to spread any propaganda. Remember, true Islam is beyond all your propagandas and Allah himself has taken this responsibility.
@B0018590 So the hand of Holy Prophet being the hand of Allah is something that you "understand" being metaphorical, but when it comes to our belief that second coming is not literal but in the sense of representing Holy Prophet in this age by Imam Mahdi, that becomes "re-incarnation" to you. Hypocrisy at its worst! If there is no need for any prophet of any kind now, then why is the non-Ahmadi Muslim population waiting for PROPHET JESUS to come AFTER Holy Prophet. Another example fo hypocrisy!
@ThePersecution You are again at it. Prophet Muhammad's (SAW) representing Allah's will is one thing and introducing a farce like "second coming" (God forbid - reincarnation) in the holiest and purest religion is another. You guys can go to any extent. It's not worth it. For me and my Muslim brothers, Islam got "muqammal" by my Prophet and there was left no room for an imposter to add anything. And this is the word of Allah and we do not need numerous organised propaganda agencies to prove it.
@B0018590 Do you read this verses literally as if Holy Prophet God forbid became Divine and God's literal hand became the hand of Holy Prophet or do you take these verses metaphorically? I am sure you take these verses literally if you are not a HYPOCRITE. If you take these verses literally then you are claiming Holy Prophet's divinity. I am sure that is not what you believe though. So stop acting like your Mullahs and practice what you claim to be. ie. a Muslim. Be humble and stop deceiving.
@B0018590 How do you read these verses of Quran: "Verily, those who swear allegiance to thee (Prophet Muhammad) indeed swear allegiance to Allah. The hand of Allah is over their hands..." What? So even though they swear allegiance to Holy Prophet's hand, they are actually swearing allegiance to Allah? Do you take this literally? and then "And thou (Prophet Muhammad) threwest NOT when thou didst throw, BUT it was Allah Who threw". It was hand of Holy Prophet, but still it was Allah's...
@ThePersecution Nobody has abused the word "metaphorical" so much as you guys. You seem to hide all your lies behind this word "metaphorical" as you very well know that on the scale of truth your claims are fictitious at best. I am an Indian and know very well what reincarnations means to my fellow Hindu brothers and your "second coming" concept is no different. So stop fooling the world. Period.
@B0018590 "Allah the Almighty has said: Whosoever shows enmity to a friend of Mine, I shall be at war with him. My servant does not draw near to ME with anything more loved by Me than the religious duties I have imposed upon him, and My servant continues to draw near to ME with supererogatory works so that I shall love him. When I love him I AM HIS HEARING with which hears, HIS SEEING with which he sees, HIS HAND with which he strikes, and HIS FOOT with which he walks." Explain this hadith pls!
ThePersecution 1 year ago
@ThePersecution Who you are fooling by digressing the real issue by bringing in Hatim Tai and again your saviour word "metaphorical". Your "second coming" thing is nothing but reincarnation packed in a new bottle. And reincarnation does not have any place in Islam. The way you have been using "metaphorical", your next step seem to be proving your listless Prophet Mirza as the God (God forbid), "metaphorically". And I pity your community as they will believe that too.
B0018590 1 year ago
@B0018590 Lets explain our position regarding "second coming", for the benefit of those who might get duped by your lies about our beliefs. Our belief is that anyone who dies never comes back. So somebody coming back in "reincarnated" form has got nothing to do with our beliefs. If you call somebody a "Hatim Tai" for his generosity, does that mean you believe in the reincarnation of Hatim Tai in the body of the person who you call a Hatim Tai? It is metpahorical way of speech. Stop lying now!
ThePersecution 1 year ago
@B0018590 Wow, so Jesus will come for "giving" shahada to Christians? Why only Jesu then? What about other religious followers who also rejected Holy Prophet and indulged in all sorts of Shirk? You make the discussion more and more interesting as you come up with a new comment. Also what is the need of that 2000 years or so old prophet who is residing somewhere in the heaven to "give" shahada to Christians. Has Holy Prophet's prophethood failed in its mission to bring them to Islam too? God!
ThePersecution 1 year ago
@ThePersecution Jesus (pbuh) is not any Tom, Dick & Harry. He is not a new identity coming after the Prophet as allegedly "second coming" (reincarnation). He will come as Jesus himself for giving Shahada to Christians about what they have been doing wrong. Your concept is deceptive and may find believers in those who believe in re-incarnations. You have many agencies to spread any propaganda. Remember, true Islam is beyond all your propagandas and Allah himself has taken this responsibility.
B0018590 1 year ago
@B0018590 So the hand of Holy Prophet being the hand of Allah is something that you "understand" being metaphorical, but when it comes to our belief that second coming is not literal but in the sense of representing Holy Prophet in this age by Imam Mahdi, that becomes "re-incarnation" to you. Hypocrisy at its worst! If there is no need for any prophet of any kind now, then why is the non-Ahmadi Muslim population waiting for PROPHET JESUS to come AFTER Holy Prophet. Another example fo hypocrisy!
ThePersecution 1 year ago
@ThePersecution You are again at it. Prophet Muhammad's (SAW) representing Allah's will is one thing and introducing a farce like "second coming" (God forbid - reincarnation) in the holiest and purest religion is another. You guys can go to any extent. It's not worth it. For me and my Muslim brothers, Islam got "muqammal" by my Prophet and there was left no room for an imposter to add anything. And this is the word of Allah and we do not need numerous organised propaganda agencies to prove it.
B0018590 1 year ago
@B0018590 Do you read this verses literally as if Holy Prophet God forbid became Divine and God's literal hand became the hand of Holy Prophet or do you take these verses metaphorically? I am sure you take these verses literally if you are not a HYPOCRITE. If you take these verses literally then you are claiming Holy Prophet's divinity. I am sure that is not what you believe though. So stop acting like your Mullahs and practice what you claim to be. ie. a Muslim. Be humble and stop deceiving.
ThePersecution 1 year ago
@B0018590 How do you read these verses of Quran: "Verily, those who swear allegiance to thee (Prophet Muhammad) indeed swear allegiance to Allah. The hand of Allah is over their hands..." What? So even though they swear allegiance to Holy Prophet's hand, they are actually swearing allegiance to Allah? Do you take this literally? and then "And thou (Prophet Muhammad) threwest NOT when thou didst throw, BUT it was Allah Who threw". It was hand of Holy Prophet, but still it was Allah's...
ThePersecution 1 year ago
@ThePersecution Nobody has abused the word "metaphorical" so much as you guys. You seem to hide all your lies behind this word "metaphorical" as you very well know that on the scale of truth your claims are fictitious at best. I am an Indian and know very well what reincarnations means to my fellow Hindu brothers and your "second coming" concept is no different. So stop fooling the world. Period.
B0018590 1 year ago