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[chromaholic]

Matt Daaaaaaamon.

F.A.G.

[OnAMushkin73]

You people are all the same!

Maaaaatt Daaaaaaaammmon!!! Classic...

LOL

[MaskedMumblr]

Mmmmm.....meatphysics! I'm hungry!

[pudgenet]

Your view of "faith" is lacking. My faith in God does not deny evidence of any kind. Again, you just do not understand religion very well.

I am not "wanking" here: you are the one attacking things you don't understand, and I am trying to gently encourage you to either understand them better, or to at least stop attacking them.

Attack intolerance, fine, but to attack religion for someone's intolerance is illogical, proven by the fact that many religious people are tolerant.

[pudgenet]

I concede that in history government has sometimes enforced laws against free speech to protect religion; thankfully, I live in America where that is extremely rare. It is now and has always been open season on religion, and every other worldview.

As to "promising debate," please.  What argument do you have AGAINST religion that can be proven or disproven? It is irrational to attempt to apply scientific methodology to everything. It's not meant for that.

[pudgenet]

First, you are telling people what is right and wrong based on your beliefs: saying being anti-gay is bad, and being kind to others is good. How is that better? Just because you don't call it "religion"?

Second, there's lots of arguments from science, history, meatphysics, theology, personal experience, and more that are involved in a discussion of "Christianity" vs. "Islam." To say it's a matter purely of faith is far too simplistic to fit onto reality.

[googlejoint]

...and pure faith is credited as being a valid response in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary. As for 'knowing my history', I'm not entirely convinced that a having a deep awareness of (supposed) events long past would make my opinion on a modern subject any more well-founded. Finally, on the level of individual humanness, I see that you're a fan of Andy McKee and so am I, so shall we stop the intellectual wanking over religion and just enjoy some of the earthly wonders?

[googlejoint]

The 'free pass' comment was a reference to the general sense of immunity that religion tends to enjoy against criticism. Take a look at modern Britain to see how free speech has been censored against even extremist Islam for example (ban on Geert Wilders speaking in the UK). There's never any genuinely promising debate because religion never puts forward any real tangible arguments than can be disproven...

[googlejoint]

My point about WWJD was directed at usermanname's argument regarding gay marriage and what apparently is objectively right and wrong, clearly another religious nut telling people what the will of god is based on his own individual views. Re: the Koran, I think we agree - they say tomato, you say tomaato, so what more solid ground can either argument continue on when the 'proof' of both sides is purely their own faith?

[pudgenet]

"I know religion is fairly used to getting a free pass when it comes to most rational arguments even in this day and age"

Utter tripe. You don't know your history. Religion has never gotten a free pass.

"but the 21st century is where the buck stops"

Shrug. You've not offered a rational argument against religion, and neither has Dawkins.

"and the focus of kindness comes back to the human individual."

OK, I'll bite: use science to prove this is true.