Celebrate Christmas by Rejecting Mormon Leaders Who Have Rejected the Virgin Birth

I talked that night with a descendant of James Talmage about the mrm.org/virgin-birth issue. He was upset that I was criticizing Young/Pratt/Talmage/McConkie over their denial of the virgin birth. I asked him if he personally believes the New Testament is compatible with the idea of God the Father coming down to have physical relations with Mary and he said he didn't want to talk about it because the issue was too "sacred".

Mormons are all over the map on this issue. Some have never heard of it and others have and go either way on it. But more importantly, from my observation when Mormons do hear about it they either practice revisionist history or chalk it up as not important enough to question their allegiance to the Mormon Church. Mormon leaders get a free pass on this one.

All that said, I was very, very surprised how many people I encountered last night who agreed with Young/Pratt/Talmage/McConkie on the issue.

I can understand how some Mormons would vehemently insist they've never heard of this issue and that they're certain almost no one in the Church believes it (or is open to it). But after only a cursory informal surveying of people and a historical study of the issue, it very quickly becomes dishonest not to admit it is a traditional and unrepudiated extant issue that still needs to be dealt with.

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[Bennyson10]

r u buddhist ayy

[Bennyson10]

sooooo lame ur lanky

[999LDS]

God sent Joseph Smith to built the lds church, so he could truly test the hearts of people. As in Galatians 1:6-8. To see if man would follow a false Gospel, led by a false prophet. Indeed, many have followed it. Just as Jesus said, that he would take sight from those who say the see, and give it to those who cant see.

The lds church is an abomination to Christs word and teachings. All are welcome into Christs church. No one is welcome into the lds ( unless you have a white shirt on )

[bandcreator28]

@completedtestamentTV you blocked me you scared mooney follower you. wow now here we are and this is not your channel. i had some questions and arguments relating your unification church. and you didn't answer me, and you blocked me. I called you church a cult. you don't even advertise you're part of a church ahem cult. that is very deceptive. you call yourself Christian? you are part of an anti christian cult. and you don't even have the guts to answer simple arguments and Q's. coward.

[55keatz55]

Hey Mang want to disprove mormonism? Just read the book of Mormon and ask God if it is true through prayer. Go to the source. You honestly can't trust anything. We don't even have the original transcripts of the bible, all we have are translations of translations that even err from one to another. You can only trust God. Read the book of Mormon, ask God if its true! Then you know from the source of all knowledge. This is why I am LDS, otherwise I would not be. God answered my prayer.

[adamhburner]

The Church officially has stated the obvious, ''The Church does not claim to know how Jesus was conceived but believes the Bible... in references to Jesus being born of the Virgin Mary". So 'remember no evil' and love, forgive and move on. Mormons are Christian and have their hopes of becoming accepted as such, if there were any statements in the past that seem to challenge this position then, forgive and allow us to worship the Son of God along with you.

[completedtestamentTV]

realtionship with Jesus later on. We do not hear about him in the Gospel. Jesus had also a difficult time with his brothers and sisters. Even Mary did not understand him and what his mission was. Please read the book I mentioned. It is very enlighting.

[completedtestamentTV]

Have you read this book that explained who Jesus's physical father is ?

It is called "The virgin and the priest". It is very well documented and very helpful.

There are reasons why Joseph had to overcome the fact that somebody else was Jesus' father. It is to reverse what took place at the time of the human fall when Lucifer took the place of God as our father. Jesus reminded us that we are doing the will of Satan, our father. Joseph overcame and protected Mary. Still he had a difficult (more.

[michael34453]

I notice a certain inconsistency in Mormonism. On the one hand, they teach to follow the prophet. On the other hand, they say that Brigham Young was just speculating about Mary having sex with Heavenly Father, Adam is God the Father, Cain was cursed with black skin, and there are some sins that Jesus did not die for that requires the shedding of one's own blood to atone for them. If this is just speculation, why did Brigham Young constantly insist these teachings must be believed?

[MsAlicewonderful]

mormons have their heavenly father who was kicked from heaven for playing with fire...lol...end mormonism..brak down their devil worship temples1!!