Concertgebouw Orchestra Mahler Symphony No.1 Mariss Jansons

Gustav Mahler Symphony No.1, 2nd movement, Royal Concertgebouw Orchestra, Mariss Jansons, Vesko Eschkenazy concertmaster

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• Vesko
• Eschkenazy

[Taktstock1]

Jansons understands it as a peasant, rural dance. THats right, Mahler titled it as "Ländler", a dance for the countrymen.

For this reason it has to be heavy and cant be taken faster than this if you want to create that character.

I think its perfect.

[LordBrome]

Heard this on an episode of Star Trek Voyager-Counterpoints. Immediately fell in love with it and had to find it. Beautiful!

[xaviervandepoll]

@JamiroToti That's the "Trio", as Mahler put it.

[JamiroToti]

3:55 - 6:45 I love that part.

[dbpsoccer121]

what's with the wind intonation on the melody? LOVE the strings though...

[ToulBoi]

so musical... dynamic contrast is perfect

[Taktstock1]

@opuspocus5553 (continued)

If you take this Mahler movement too fast, an acceleration and climax like wonderfully done at 3:20 or in the end wouldn't be possible.

Finally, note that this isnt a perfect concert hall with brilliant acoustics. Here, like in very big halls like Royal Albert Hall, you have to give the music time to expand and to discover the room it has to fill. So, open air is a special thing, especially for the tempo, if you want to keep the details and sounds clear.

[Taktstock1]

@opuspocus5553 I fully agree with you. Some further aspects:

Beethoven's symphonies: The meaning of "minuet" and according to that the tempo changed with the time. Also Beethoven surely didn't take "minuet" as a dance like Haydn did more.

Chopin's Waltzes: Even without the measure, they never loose the character of a waltz. But the character of a "Ländler" is heavy, folkish. For that reason the tempo isn't as free as it would be for a minuet.

[TheJbach]

Brilliant! Super!! Superb delight!!

[opuspocus5553]

@Taktstock1 The minuet of Beethoven's 1st symphony and the Chopin waltzes would sound absolutely ridiculous if their tempos were only set according to the dances they originated from

[opuspocus5553]

@Taktstock1 Yes, it is a landler, but one could easily justify a faster performance. In Mahler's own program, this movement's subtitle was "at full sail." I've never sailed, but I sure can imagine the sheer rush of exhilaration that takes over when the wind is strong and is pushing the boat effortlessly through the water. To me, that image isn't compatible with a slow comfortable tempo! Furthermore, the harmonic pacing of this movement is so slow that it will feel "heavy" enough at any tempo.