DjangoCon 2008 Keynote: Mark Ramm
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Mark Ramm delivers keynote address: "Building a better framework - A Turbogears guy on what Django should learn from Zope."
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What a cool Beard he has I liked it.
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12:50 dependencies Django vs Turbo Geards
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Django explained in one word: Awesome.
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You're very welcome.
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Well now think..that was moving along Django..but should be caring Pylon and Turbogear facility too for being error proof programmer.
thank's for talk
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Great talk, thank you Mark.
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A lot of projects should consider the thoughts presented here.
3 years ago 2
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Mark is the man to listen to. Python lags behind PHP in web stuff, but not forever. The Python community of web framework developers is doing the right thing by tolerating and even encouraging different approaches.
3 years ago 2
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As I mentioned after my talk on PyCon it's great to see that Turbogears have learnt the lessons of Zope, and sad to see that Django hasn't. There are some more minor mistakes they are redoing as well. I'd link to my blog posts about this, but it doesn't seem to work YouTube. :)
3 years ago 4
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Agreed. Great talk, Mark. You pack a lot of wisdom into a small number of minutes. :-)
3 years ago 3
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Mark Ramm here.
I actually don't hate on zope. I think Zope has learned the lesions of Zope2 and I want the rest of us to learn those lesions too. ;)
mramm42 3 years ago 11
It's fun to hate on Zope, but of course Zope itself has evolved far beyond the Zope that folks love to hate. ;-)
jondstahl 3 years ago 9